tom coffey 42 #1 Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Carburator Reference Manual TP-2377-E.pdf Here is a pic of the carb I now have for my WH C816. The carb has NO numbers or letters on it anywhere for identification but is a 1" size and bolts up so I'm happy. Problem is, It's missing a few parts and one part I can't figure out how to get. I need a float needle, which I suppose is going to be included in a needle/seat assembly. Ok no problem there. Please click on the link to the manual to the left of my pic for the numbers I will give. I also need # 9 bowl gasket, # 11 bowl baffle gasket, and # 16 bowl retaining screw gasket. Still not a crisis. BUT- I have no jet, or nothing for # 3 , the high speed adjusting needle, to seat into. There is not one shown in the parts diagram. The carb I have might be an aftermarket/reproduction hence the lack of markings (which I am fine with) if I can get the parts to complete it. If it is aftermarket or repop will the parts still fit and what can I do for the jet? HELP! Thanks. Edited January 6, 2019 by tom coffey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimH 105 #2 Posted January 6, 2019 Looks like a replacement carb from I Save Tractors. They have parts in stock. for theirs and OEM carbs. If I remember right This is a replacement for a Carter Carb.( OEM Kohler ) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,151 #3 Posted January 6, 2019 Let me begin by saying that Trina and I are huge advocates of the saying Use What You Have I have a great appreciation for wanting to make that carb work for you. But... It would Definitely be much easier and Very Likely be less expensive to order a complete replacement off fleabay (under $20) than go to the trouble of finding and assembling the one you have. This is being said by the guy who will spend way too much time wire brushing and old bolt instead of just putting in a new one. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,164 #4 Posted January 6, 2019 just watch those cheap plastic floats on the reproduction carbs. you get what you pay with these 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LengerichKA88 1,881 #5 Posted January 6, 2019 Just an idea, may be a bad one: can you canabalize any good parts from the old one? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,849 #6 Posted January 6, 2019 You have there an aftermarket carburetor. Finding correct replacement parts may be a exercise in futility. I am not sure that Kohler or Carter parts will fit,. Probably it is not tried often since those replacement carburetors are usually less expensive than buying separate parts to complete one. Keep in mind also that not all high speed needles that fit into a specific or different bodies areall the same. It is a very sensitive part that is designed by having different holes in it of different sizes and different locations depending on the engine size it is used in.Trust me, it makes a big difference. To be successful and economical in purchasing parts for a carburetor one needs to know exactly what one has in hand such as a clearly branded and marked body. That does not happen with the aftermarket units. I suggest buying a whole new one to avoid frustration and expense. Then perhaps in the future you will have spare parts for it from the old ones. Refer to the information below on the high speed needle and I suggest you spend time in The Brian Millers site. Well worth time spent. http://gardentractorpullingtips.com/carbfuel.htm High Speed Air/Fuel Mixture Needle Adjuster Screw for certain Carter/Kohler #26, #28, #30 carburetors used on Kohler K-series and early Magnum flathead engine models K241, K301, K330/K331, K321, KT17, KT17 Series II, KT19, KT19 Series II, MV16, M18, MV18, M20, MV20 and certain K532 and K582 engines. 3-3/8" overall length. Has four holes midway and two lower holes on stem. Designed specifically for Kohler carburetors with following numbers stamped on mounting flange: 47 053 07, 47 053 08, 47 053 12, 47 053 13, 47 053 14, 47 053 24, 47 053 29, 47 053 35, 47 053 40, 47 053 62, 47 053 80, 48 053 06 (K582), 52 053 01, 52 053 02, 52 053 09, 52 053 10, 52 053 11, 52 053 16, 52 053 18 and 52 053 28. IMPORTANT - Please check numbers on carburetor before ordering and go here to identify the correct part for any particular carburetor: Kohler Carburetor Reference Manual. Interchangeable with discontinued OEM Kohler high speed adjuster part # 52 103 01-S, which has four holes midway and one lower hole on stem. Lower hole enlarged to #60 or 1mm so engine will idle well and start quicker. High quality aftermarket. Replaces Kohler part # 235415-S. $19.00 each, plus shipping & handling. OEM Kohler part # 235415-S. $31.55 each, plus shipping & handling. High Speed Air/Fuel Mixture Needle Adjuster Screw for certain Carter/Kohler #28, #30 carburetors used on Kohler K-series and early Magnum single cylinder engine models K321, K341 and K361. 3-3/8" overall length. Has two holes midway and one lower hole on stem. Designed specifically for Kohler carburetors with following numbers stamped on mounting flange: 4174S (Carter), 45 053 08, 45 053 12, 45 053 20, 45 053 26, 45 053 68, 45 053 70, 45 053 76, 45 053 77 and 47 053 11. IMPORTANT - Please check numbers on carburetor before ordering and go here to identify the correct part for any particular carburetor: Kohler Carburetor Reference Manual. Discontinued from Kohler. Kohler part # 45 103 01-S. Lower hole enlarged to #60 or 1mm so engine will idle well and start quicker. High quality aftermarket. $16.00 each, plus shipping & handling. High Speed Air/Fuel Mixture Needle Adjuster Screw for certain Carter #30 carburetors used on certain Kohler engine models K321, and Kohler #26, 1.07" throttle bore carburetors used on Kohler engine models K482, K532 and K582. 3-3/8" overall length. Each has no holes midway and one lower hole on stem. Designed specifically for certain Carter and Kohler carburetors with following numbers stamped on mounting flange: A236636 (Carter #30), 47 053 03, 47 053 09, 47 053 15, 47 053 16, 47 053 17, 47 053 20, 47 053 30, 47 053 41, 47 053 63 and 47 053 78. IMPORTANT - Please check numbers on carburetor before ordering and go here to identify the correct part for any particular carburetor: Kohler Carburetor Reference Manual. Lower hole enlarged to #60 or 1mm so engine will idle well and start quicker. Not available in aftermarket. L OEM Kohler part # 47 103 01-S. 15º pointed end; listed for Kohler engine models K241 w/spec # 46743, K482, K532, K582 w/spec #'s 36224 and 36231. $18.60 each, plus shipping & handling. Used and in excellent condition. OEM Kohler part #'s 237489-S, 48 103 01-S (discontinued). 30º pointed end; listed for Carter #30 carburetor A236636 used on Kohler engine models K321 and K341 installed in Cub Cadet models 147, 149 and 169; also listed for K582 engines w/spec #'s 36202-36394, except above È. $23.00 each, plus shipping & handling. Quality High Speed Steel Spiral Drill Bit. Size: #60 or 1mm diameter x 1-3/8" length. Perfect size to enlarge lower hole (orifice) on high speed needle adjuster for Carter/Kohler carburetors so engine will idle well and start quicker. Use 150± PSI compressed air to clear out any metal cuttings from inside the adjuster tube. NOTE: Carefully enlarge the hole by hand with drill bit clamped in a mini micro pin vise hand drill chuck. An ingenious, thoroughly researched and innovative concept by Brian Miller, because nobody else advertise this. Drill bit only. $1.60 each, plus shipping & handling. Many other small size drill bits also available. 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tom coffey 42 #7 Posted January 6, 2019 I was looking to find the missing parts for this carb because it's the only carb I have. Maybe I will just find a used original to rebuild after all. I'm going to a (mostly) vintage car parts swap meet this weekend but anything and is apt to show up. I will see. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,849 #8 Posted January 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, tom coffey said: I was looking to find the missing parts for this carb because it's the only carb I have. Maybe I will just find a used original to rebuild after all. I'm going to a (mostly) vintage car parts swap meet this weekend but anything and is apt to show up. I will see. Thanks. What engine is on tractor now? With that we can tell you which carburetor goes with it. You could just get a new aftermarket for about $20.00 +/- and get tractor going quick. Whatever you decide you need to get the correct one for that engine. Most of them will bolt right on but they may not be the correct ones. Tolerances are very different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,151 #9 Posted January 6, 2019 Tom if somebody on this site doesn't have one directly, Lincoln at A - Z would very likely be able to help you out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tom coffey 42 #10 Posted January 6, 2019 My engine numbers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,849 #11 Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Carter #28 , Kohler #30, Walbro #60 & #64. Number should be engraved inside choke end. As for the aftermarket ones just use engine # to find it K341. Edited January 6, 2019 by formariz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
