gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,276 #26 Posted May 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Tgtack said: I think the mystery has been solved. I found my serial number listed in the manuals section, and according to the listing, mine is a 1964 Model 854. So I guess I will be looking for an 8HP Kohler instead of converting the 7HP Kohler pull start engine that came with it. When you posted the serial number I went looking to see where it would fit in and added it to the list. Garry 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tgtack 779 #27 Posted May 15, 2017 That's what I figured as well. Seems hard to say for certain sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,786 #28 Posted May 15, 2017 Yup, you're absolutely right. Now I'm thinking it was a leftover decal Many years ago I had an 854. What a great tractor. I had seepage issues with the tank and considered replacing it with an older one piece. But I ended up replacing the gasket and using a liquid tank sealant I found at a motorcycle shop that you put in the tank and spread it around.. Of course I only had to slosh it around the bottom edge. That worked perfectly for many, many years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tgtack 779 #29 Posted May 15, 2017 But, I have a solid nose hood that apparently will be one inch short with the 8hp engine in it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,786 #30 Posted May 15, 2017 Gadzooks! I forgot about that. Maybe Garry can give us some insight as to why the serial # fits in so neatly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tgtack 779 #31 Posted May 15, 2017 I am sure it is not the original hood for it, too many details on the tractor place it as a very late 63 or early 64. As far as I can tell, the solid hood was only used in 61 (?). So, I will be cleaning it up, get it in primer, and be looking to swap for the correct hood at some point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,786 #32 Posted May 15, 2017 Also remember what the previous owners did over the past 55+ years. That's part of the mystic of these little red tractors. I can't count the number of times I've cringed at hearing 'original this.....original that'......who really knows unless that person uncrated it. Some things we know but most are..well, let's say folklore. I grew up with Wheel Horses since 1960. We'd all cringe at what owners did to them decades ago, me especially because I was one of them. I love seeing the guys who strive for factory original but your tractor is a classic example. A fine tractor that has a history that creates so many great conversations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTOM 124 #33 Posted May 15, 2017 Its a 701 hood. Leave the hood the way it is and put it up for trade for a 62-64 hood. I'm sure someone will do a straight-up swap with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tgtack 779 #34 Posted May 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, Racinbob said: Also remember what the previous owners did over the past 55+ years. That's part of the mystic of these little red tractors. I can't count the number of times I've cringed at hearing 'original this.....original that'......who really knows unless that person uncrated it. Some things we know but most are..well, let's say folklore. I grew up with Wheel Horses since 1960. We'd all cringe at what owners did to them decades ago, me especially because I was one of them. I love seeing the guys who strive for factory original but your tractor is a classic example. A fine tractor that has a history that creates so many great conversations. I am sure this one has a story for sure. It has a 7hp Tecumseh on it, held on by two bolts right now. The front of the tractor and front of the engine including the air filter housing have a thin mocha colored residue on it. The engine will turn about 350 degrees in either direction, and then "clunk". I would venture a guess that someone drove it into a ditch filled with muddy water and hydrolocked it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTOM 124 #35 Posted May 16, 2017 So far the only thing that is not a 64 is the hood and motor. If you have a solid battery tray base its a 64, If you have the 5 bolt hubs its a 64. Your hood stand assembly is specific to a 64. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tgtack 779 #36 Posted May 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, DTOM said: So far the only thing that is not a 64 is the hood and motor. If you have a solid battery tray base its a 64, If you have the 5 bolt hubs its a 64. Your hood stand assembly is specific to a 64. DTOM, you are correct on both counts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTOM 124 #37 Posted May 16, 2017 Your all set then. Its a 64. Go to the wanted and or trade section in the classified and hunt down the motor and hood. And not to get you worked up but i have those two items in my shed. Good luck and any other question pm me directly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tgtack 779 #38 Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) On 5/14/2017 at 6:27 AM, 953 nut said: Nope, she got new living room furniture! Edited May 16, 2017 by Tgtack 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 58,277 #39 Posted May 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Tgtack said: So basically the 857 will get parted. Almost hate to do that, but Consider it an Organ Donor; that is a very noble thing for any to do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tgtack 779 #40 Posted May 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Consider it an Organ Donor; that is a very noble thing for any to do! 953 nut, I almost hate to, it looks like this, runs and drives great. It just has some minor incorrect parts issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites