looking at 314 H

[Tim.0 39]

Hi,

I am new to the forum (hello to everyone) with couple questions.

I am looking at a314 H, looks decent shape, tires could be better. 880 hours, no smoke. I don't know the history of the machine, but must have been maintained to a point and kept indoors.

What is a 314 h worth about  approximately?

ALso once it starts the oil light blinks and all the little red lights stay on for awhile, then after couple minutes they all turn off. Is this normal? The red light blinking on and off  for the oil oil mean low oil pressure?  These lights staying on have something to do with the rpms once over a certain rpm they turn off?>

Anyway the engine cold should have higher oil pressure when cold then warmed up and I drove it around for awhile and let it run and get warm never saw the oil light come on again.

Im confused with these red lights...

Thank you any help be appreciated

Tim O

[varosd 1,185]

Welcome

oil link does the same on all my rigs

obvious the Hydro was all warmed up and it performed well? 

what size deck?

how much depends on a lot condition.

600-800 range depending on paint/rust, size deck etc etc

 

any pictures?

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,513]

The Magnum single cylinder engines are splash lubricated so no oil pump. The oil light is controlled by a low oil switch and relay which when activated prevents the starter from being engaged. If you ever have to remove the low oil switch there are special instructions to remove it without damage.

 

Garry

[Jerry77 1,218]

2 hours ago, Tim.0 said:

Im confused with these red lights

Kinda worthless feature in my opinion - had a 314-8 that lights only worked right for a year or two - got the circuit board wet and that was the end of that...I wouldn't worry about the lights - make sure you get a mower deck with it...like varosd said - 600 to 800..

[Tim.0 39]

HI,

Thank you for the comments, this is the link for pictures.

https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/farm-equipment/for-sale/10825041/toro-wheelhorse-314h

 

The price was lower when I was there and guess its been there a long time. I have never had a wheel horse and it seemed okay from what I saw. I did see some old oil up around the rearend, from old oil change in hydro or could be a leak? Have to look at it again.

I thought the 14 horse magnum had a oil pump?

How is the 314 H on hills? Is there enough lubrication so not to starve oil in the engine? How does the hydro perform on hills?

I use a old yardman  1996 16 horse and it goes up and down the one hill and mow around the fruit trees I have.

The other thing I notice about the mower deck on the workhorse it is all open in the back, so really should not plug up, should actually cut good. At least this is what I am thinking , even in some tall grass which my yardman my have some trouble because it has to blow it out the side.

SO I guess the decks where they are all open in the back must cut good?

I see plenty parts for engine so far, but how are parts availability for the rest of machine?

( so reading thru the forums I see most parts are available for these tractors)

 

Otherwise looking at the Workhorse lawn tractor it looks like they were built to really last, the grease fittings, looks like the deck would come off easy enough for maintenance, plenty of steel put into them when made, very solid machine

Thanks Tim O

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[SylvanLakeWH 28,569]

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Garry

[farmer 1,078]

I would agree with what's been said already. But I would ask you what you'll be using it for? In my opinion for garden work or any 'heavy' work I would look to get a 8 speed manual, they're simple and tough for any job you find to do.

Hydro' are ok but they tend to run much hotter, over speed down hill, and if you get a problem they're more expensive to repair. I don't want to put you off this particular tractor, it's just my   

Edited May 4, 2017 by farmer

[Tim.0 39]

5 minutes ago, farmer said:

I would agree with what's been said already. But I would ask you what you'll be using it for? In my opinion for garden work or any 'heavy' work I would look to get a 8 speed manual, they're simple and tough for any job you find to do.

Hydro' are ok but they tend to run much hotter, over speed down hill, and if you get a problem they're more expensive to repair.  

Just mowing, or pull a grass catcher, maybe move my small trailer around (empty).

Yes, I rather it be a 8 speed

Thank You

[Racinbob 11,986]

That looks like a solid machine and the asking price is fair if it's as good mechanically as it looks. I wouldn't worry about the splash lubrication. The older K-series had that and they run forever. As far as the transmission it's entirely what you'd prefer. Personally I prefer manuals but hydros do have some advantages. You mentioned that you'd rather have an 8 speed so I'm thinking you should keep looking. They are out there. @WHX11 is a Wisconsin rustler and could maybe give you some leads.

 

Oh yea.......

[chip61 666]

55 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

That looks like a solid machine and the asking price is fair if it's as good mechanically as it looks. I wouldn't worry about the splash lubrication. The older K-series had that and they run forever. As far as the transmission it's entirely what you'd prefer. Personally I prefer manuals but hydros do have some advantages. You mentioned that you'd rather have an 8 speed so I'm thinking you should keep looking. They are out there. @WHX11 is a Wisconsin rustler and could maybe give you some leads.

 

Oh yea.......

 

What he said!! I would add that I have a 314-8 which I love but I also have a C160 Hydro and I really like that for mowing. It's nice to be able to change speed on the fly, and where I mow I find 2nd high is a little slow and 3rd high is a little too fast in thicker patches. With the hydro I can change speed as needed without slowing down or stopping. I believe that machine has the better Eaton 1100 hydro.

[WHX?? 51,877]

Well hello Tim   Nice to see another Wisconsinite added to the roster!. I am about 60 miles north of Madison.  That looks like one fine 314 and I wouldn't be afraid to pay that askin price. Thing is here is Statz is a large & reputable power equip dealer so they may have cleaned it up some and got it ready to use. Bad thing is there may not be any wiggle room on the price as they have to make a buck. They probably took in in on trade for a z turn and would bet they got 4-500 in it.  I wouldn't worry about the oil thing the other fellas got you covered on that. Still for what they are asking you won't find that solid a tractor like that kinda coin.. If it's been there awhile they might just drop it a hundred or so just to move it, be no crime in trying to dicker some.  Stymies me why it's been there so long. Yes most of us prefer manuals but there is nothing like a well kept hydro for mowing and that machine will out do whatever you have now and then some. Parts are around so that not as issue.  On the deck I have never mowed with a RD so I am not the expert on how they cut. Hear tell they are nice for cutting close on either side.

If your not in a real hurry I would keep an eye on CL as nice working horses  do pop up now and then but don't set too long as eventually they will find a home for it. For me it's about the time I decide to get off the pot and pull the trigger

Good luck with your potential score and don't be afraid to ask stupid questions.

[Tim.0 39]

HI,

Thanks for all the input. I am just using it for mowing and the machine has a filter on the left side under filter so it has the 1100 eaton hydro. At least best I can figure doing research. The 1100 ( don't think it has the 1300)suppose to be heavy duty as compare to the 700 in some of the 314 a or 314 b.

I did buy it for 650. Now I just have to get it home its 2 hours away.

Thanks for all the input and I'll post back after I get it home and run it some.

Thanks again Tim O

[WHX?? 51,877]

Guess they did have some wiggle room then, you got a good deal IMHO. I am only an hour away and would be more than happy to get it stable it for you and exercise it. Yes  should have the 1100, You can use it for a lot more than just mowing if you feed it the right feed. Your 14 is a fine motor. A buddy has a 314 in a manual that he has (properly) set up for field plowing and it does at half throttle what others can't do at full.

Good luck with her and let us know if we can help with issues.

[ohiofarmer 3,379]

Glad you got it for less than ask price. i did notice that there was a "make offer" button on the descriptive page.  About the maintenance on the later series Horses that gets overlooked.  There is an idler pulley that moves to keep tension on the transmission belt. Keep some oil on the bushing where the swing shaft for the pulley penetrates the tunnel. Also keep a little lube on the steering wheel at the top where it comes through the dash and also the needle bearings on the blade engage hi-hat.

 

 On hills [if you mow sideways like a side-ditch]  When you lean on the side of the seat, these later models have a cantilever mounting through thin metal that can crack and tear out and the seat could break free. I used a cut up circular saw blade to strengthen that area. i also use a wheel weight to keep the tractor holding the high side of the hill.Even the older series are weak at the seat pivot mounts. i had to strengthen the Raider10 with angle iron.

 

 No need to lecture me on safety issues mowing hillsides because i know what works for me. Mow your hills the safe way,of course

 

 That tractor should outlast three of them from the big box stores, so congrats to you. That engine will boss that mower around like it is not even there if you keep the blades reasonably sharp

[chip61 666]

Good deal-much nicer tractor for less money than a new lawn tractor. You'll be happy with it.

[Tim.0 39]

Thank you again for all the help and kind words.

I'll will get a picture up ( even though there was one already) give a report back after I get it home and run it some. I will prolly need to change the oil in the hydro unit and check the level anyway and get a filter. They changed the engine oil. Do some more research in the forums and prolly come back with another dumb question yet.

Thanks again Tim O