DRAINED OUT THE GLUE

[HorseFixer 2,013]

Nothing makes an Engine run as good as Draining out the GLUE!    The 522XI came home Saturday and today had to do some much needed maintenance.    Warmed it up good degreased the tractor engine, drive train all underneath front to rear with 4 cans of Gunk Foamy Engine cleaner. Drained the Glue and put on a new filter and filled it up with the best. Changed the filter and pre filter. Tomorrow will do the hydro the same as the engine.  

 

 

[WHX?? 51,806]

Is it just just my imagination but do motors just seem to run run best on a fresh oil change?!?!

[HorseFixer 2,013]

1 hour ago, WHX11 said:

Is it just just my imagination but do motors just seem to run run best on a fresh oil change?!?!

 

Your right!  Any fresh Oil change you can give an Engine no matter what brand you use, is good for the engine.  

[6bg6ga 272]

Sometimes one should consider adding just a little ATF in with the oil. Let her run and get warmed up and then drain the oil. You will be amazed at the junk that will come out and how much longer your new oil (after dumping the oil/ATF mix) will stay clean. ATF is a highly refined oil and an excellent cleaner and it won't hurt a thing. I would think that any avid collector wouldn't mind a oil change with ATF simply to clean the inners. It costs a little bit but my experience is it really cleans and makes your new fixture one that might last just a little longer because its cleaner.

 

As most probably have realized there are a lot of engines on mowers out there that haven't been service like they should have been. Yes, I also feel the engine seems to run better and makes a little more power because its a happy clean engine.

[clueless 3,249]

With the amsoil oil and filter, how long between oil changes, and between filter change?

10 hours ago, HorseFixer said:

 

Your right!  Any fresh Oil change you can give an Engine no matter what brand you use, is good for the engine.  

 

[HorseFixer 2,013]

20 minutes ago, clueless said:

With the amsoil oil and filter, how long between oil changes, and between filter change?

 

 

On an Automobile With an EA Filter (absolute efficiency) And the Signature Series Oil 25,000 Miles. They Have Tested engine after engine after engine and found this to be within standards. They have run Semi Trucks over 500,000 Miles between oil Changes by just changing the Filters and topping off the oil. That's with our BYPASS filtration system. Now on my Prized Snow Chucker? I go 3 years because I only Operate it on an Average of 20 hrs a year. Part of that I suppose is how comfortable you are. But that is only with an Amsoil Filter in use. If anyone elses filter is used on a tractor (1) year is all I would go.  I wish they made Air filters for Garden Tractors!     A good link below on our Nano Technology filtration which is used in Air and Oil Filters.  >>> 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2017 by HorseFixer

[clueless 3,249]

So on the chucker, 60hrs between oil and filter change.

11 minutes ago, HorseFixer said:

 

On an Automobile With an EA Filter (absolute efficiency) And the Signature Series Oil 25,000 Miles. They Have Tested engine after engine after engine and found this to be within standards. They have run Semi Trucks over 500,000 Miles between oil Changes by just changing the Filters and topping off the oil. That's with our BYPASS filtration system. Now on my Prized Snow Chucker? I go 3 years because I only Operate it on an Average of 20 hrs a year. Part of that I suppose is how comfortable you are. But that is only with an Amsoil Filter in use. If anyone elses filter is used on a tractor (1) year is all I would go.  I wish they made Air filters for Garden Tractors!     A good link below on our Nano Technology filtration which is used in Air and Oil Filters.  >>> 

 

 

 

[Tuneup 1,452]

My buddy ran 1 quart of tranny fluid in his old Polara with the oil. When he went into the service, we tore that old '68 383 apart and it gleamed inside. Super high detergent.

[Pullstart 66,899]

4 hours ago, 6bg6ga said:

Sometimes one should consider adding just a little ATF in with the oil. Let her run and get warmed up and then drain the oil. You will be amazed at the junk that will come out and how much longer your new oil (after dumping the oil/ATF mix) will stay clean. ATF is a highly refined oil and an excellent cleaner and it won't hurt a thing. I would think that any avid collector wouldn't mind a oil change with ATF simply to clean the inners. It costs a little bit but my experience is it really cleans and makes your new fixture one that might last just a little longer because its cleaner.

 

As most probably have realized there are a lot of engines on mowers out there that haven't been service like they should have been. Yes, I also feel the engine seems to run better and makes a little more power because its a happy clean engine.

 

 

Yep, my auto shop teacher taught us that ATF is a great detergent for oil changes and cleaning fuel systems as well.  a quart in a tank of gas (car/truck) can do wonders for the entire system including valves and combustion chambers too. 

[HorseFixer 2,013]

6 hours ago, 6bg6ga said:

Sometimes one should consider adding just a little ATF in with the oil. Let her run and get warmed up and then drain the oil. You will be amazed at the junk that will come out and how much longer your new oil (after dumping the oil/ATF mix) will stay clean. ATF is a highly refined oil and an excellent cleaner and it won't hurt a thing. I would think that any avid collector wouldn't mind a oil change with ATF simply to clean the inners. It costs a little bit but my experience is it really cleans and makes your new fixture one that might last just a little longer because its cleaner.

 

As most probably have realized there are a lot of engines on mowers out there that haven't been service like they should have been. Yes, I also feel the engine seems to run better and makes a little more power because its a happy clean engine.

 

If you are breaking loose sludge and deposits in your engine then where is it going?     AMSOIL Synthetics is Highly detergent and when used in conjunction with an EA (absolute efficiency) oil filter will clean the engine over a longer span of time and catch all the particles that has built up in your engine. Here is what Motor Oil Myths and Facts has to say on the subject.  http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#Engine Flushes--The Latest Scam

 

Engine Flushes--The Latest Scam
Engine flushes pump heated solvent through your engine, supposedly to wash away sludge. But regular oil changes with detergent oil already take care of the sludge problem. And if you actually have an engine that is full of sludge the last thing you want to do is do an engine flush because the sludge can clog the oil passages and destroy the engine completely. These flushes are completely unnecessary. All they do is wash the money out of your wallet. As Click and Clack state: "This is what's known in the business as a "profit center." Something the garage can use to beef up the amount each person spends per visit. So unless you've got a very old car, and are trying to solve a specific, sludge- or carbon-related-problem, I'd skip the R-2000." These engine flushes usually sell for about $130. The victims are people that think that they are doing something nice for their vehicle by cleaning the engine. In fact a dealer or repair shop that tries to sell you an engine flush should be avoided for all service because they are untrustworthy.

Edited April 11, 2017 by HorseFixer

[HorseFixer 2,013]

41 minutes ago, clueless said:

So on the chucker, 60hrs between oil and filter change.

 

 

Yes Approximately, but every 3 years. As I have a remote Filter with an AMSOIL Equivalent of an Ford FL1A which is a very large filter for that Onan Engine Prolly over twice as big as the Onan Filter of filtering Capacity.

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

Same goes with transmission flushing, if you do it at say 25-30k miles from new and continue to maintain that schedule with a 50k filter change that's acceptable but if you don't service the tranny till say 100k with a flush, you've basically bought yourself a new or rebuilt tranny, have a buddy in a GM service department seen this time and again from AAMCO near them, Jeff.

[6bg6ga 272]

18 hours ago, HorseFixer said:

 

 

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If you are breaking loose sludge and deposits in your engine then where is it going?     AMSOIL Synthetics is Highly detergent and when used in conjunction with an EA (absolute efficiency) oil filter will clean the engine over a longer span of time and catch all the particles that has built up in your engine. Here is what Motor Oil Myths and Facts has to say on the subject.  http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm#Engine Flushes--The Latest Scam

 

Engine Flushes--The Latest Scam
Engine flushes pump heated solvent through your engine, supposedly to wash away sludge. But regular oil changes with detergent oil already take care of the sludge problem. And if you actually have an engine that is full of sludge the last thing you want to do is do an engine flush because the sludge can clog the oil passages and destroy the engine completely. These flushes are completely unnecessary. All they do is wash the money out of your wallet. As Click and Clack state: "This is what's known in the business as a "profit center." Something the garage can use to beef up the amount each person spends per visit. So unless you've got a very old car, and are trying to solve a specific, sludge- or carbon-related-problem, I'd skip the R-2000." These engine flushes usually sell for about $130. The victims are people that think that they are doing something nice for their vehicle by cleaning the engine. In fact a dealer or repair shop that tries to sell you an engine flush should be avoided for all service because they are untrustworthy.

 

I guess I should have been a little more specific. In no way is a little ATF in the oil going to break loose heavy sludge in an engine. In the past I purposely put 1 qt with an oil change. It took a number of oil changes to do some cleaning. After about 5 oil changes I did pull the pan and checked main and rod bearings. The sludge was down but not completely gone. It actually took over a year and a 1/2 to clean the inside and it didn't do any damage. However as mentioned a really high detergent is going to break stuff loose and WILL probably plug oil passages. I will agree with what is being said below and to skip the engine flushes. I personally have no problem putting say 1/2 qt ATF in the oil when doing a change in say a Onan 16hp or the like.

Edited April 12, 2017 by 6bg6ga
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[pfrederi 18,696]

For Hydros WH was adamant that if you changed from ATF to Motor Oil you had to competently flush the system.  No mixing of ATF Motor Oil.  Wonder why it was bad there but several here are saying it is OK to mix them in an engine.

 

Rislone (sp?) used to be popular to add a qt just before an oil change.  Heck others added Kerosene

Edited April 12, 2017 by pfrederi

[illinilefttackle 399]

Not to Muddy the waters- but back in the 60's when I spent some time working for the local Ford Garage- Recommended cure for a Ford car under warranty- that came in with a lifter "tick" - was to add 1/2 Qt. of ATF to the oil & drive it for several minutes. Every time I saw this procedure used- it worked? I will leave the possible explanation, as to why it worked,  to those vastly more knowledgeable oil Gurus that sell oil on the side!- Al

[WHX?? 51,806]

Interesting Al.....

What's everyone's take on this stuff? Sales gimmicks or for real?

https://lucasoil.com/products/engine-oil-additives

[HorseFixer 2,013]

5 hours ago, 6bg6ga said:

I guess I should have been a little more specific. In no way is a little ATF in the oil going to break loose heavy sludge in an engine. In the past I purposely put 1 qt with an oil change. It took a number of oil changes to do some cleaning. After about 5 oil changes I did pull the pan and checked main and rod bearings. The sludge was down but not completely gone. It actually took over a year and a 1/2 to clean the inside and it didn't do any damage. However as mentioned a really high detergent is going to break stuff loose and WILL probably plug oil passages. I will agree with what is being said below and to skip the engine flushes. I personally have no problem putting say 1/2 qt ATF in the oil when doing a change in say a Onan 16hp or the like.

 

I would say if that be the case using a premium filter to pick up the particles in the engine would be okay. Using Synthetics are Very high detergent and At least Amsoil I know blends 100% compatibility with other oils. Just be careful when mixing up witches brew concoctions for your engines. Adding other things may inhibit that oil from doing its job. 

[6bg6ga 272]

One needs to remember that ATF is an extremely refined oil. That being said it isn't going to cause a problem if there is a little bit in your crankcase. As a matter of fact when I was in High School many years ago we were taught that one could drain the crankcase and use nothing but ATF and it wouldn't cause any problem. Bottom line is its oil.