PTO Friction Disk

[Miles 1]

I have a 1967 T1257 Serial No. 284940 Horse. It has a 6" PTO Friction disk that is

replaceable. It seems it has ribbets holding it on to the disk itself. Does anyone know

what the Wheelhorse Part number might be for this item, or where I might obtain one. :thumbs:

[kpinnc 14,663]

It's part #4365- listed as a "clutch facing" on the Toro website.

Toro solutions center

I don't think it is available anymore, but they do come up from time to time on Ebay.

You may also be able to have one made from brake material and replace it yourself. It has been done before. NAPA and other auto parts stores carry the material. The trick is finding a peice big enough to make one...

Kevin

[daemon2525 5]

We have a brake lining shop in town that will do it. They specialize in brake and clutch linings for all kinds of equipment, large equipment , clutches etc.

I forgot exactly, but it was 25 to 35 $.

It's called "Brake Materials and Parts, Inc" . Maybe you have something similar?

They did the work. Not just supply the lining. They done a GREAT JOB.

[TT-(Moderator) 1,162]

Here's a great site to check out:

Industrial Brake & Clutch Exchange

[hodge 6]

Welcome to the board. Put a post in the wanted section- there must be millions of them floating around. You can also spot them frequently on Ebay.

[Teddy da Bear 11]

It really sucks that one of the key elements to

these wheel horses would be made no longer available.

These things seem like a simple thing for a company

to make.

my 2cents.

[TT-(Moderator) 1,162]

That specific PTO clutch was last used in 1972.

Not even the "big three" automakers still manufacture parts for 1972 & earlier models, so a lawn and garden equipment company (that has been sold twice since 1972) could not be expected to still be manufacturing every single one of those parts - whether it's a frequently-needed "wearable" item or not.

Once the original supply is depleted, they are gone for good. :thumbs:

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,611]

It really sucks that one of the key elements to

these wheel horses would be made no longer available.

These things seem like a simple thing for a company

to make. But of course Toro does not want "wheel horses"

out there getting the job done when you should be buying

one of "their" models.

my 2cents.

What most of us fail to realize is that Toro, like every company, is in the business to make money. To say they don't want the old Wheel Horses out still doing the work is totally false and really, ridiculous. How many companies advertised how much longevity they get from their products? A lot.

To make parts for older equipment costs money, maintaining the tooling, building new tooling when the old ones are no longer good enough, maintaining a facility to build the parts, the manpower, then the benefits the unions would want, etc. How many parts does Ford or GM still make for 40 to 50 old cars? Sure, some after market places still make some parts, but there isn't much of a market, sad to say, for the older lawn and garden equipment. The perception for the consumer themselves, is that power equipment is disposable. This started in the early 80's as MTD and AYP began to ramp up and the department stores began selling to the economy minded consumer. So when the consumer drives the market, and companies begin to listen, how can we blame the companies for making what the consumer wants. The parts and the parts availability, even without this type of disposable equipment environment, begin to fade as the machine gets older. It's just realistic......

[Miles 1]

Here's a great site to check out:

Industrial Brake & Clutch Exchange

Thanks TT I will be contacting Industrial Brake & Clutch Exchange tomorrow. You know

I realize this tractor is old and that parts are hard to come by. I come to this site like everyone else trying to find information and ideas to help restore a part of Americas history. I'm now 53 years old and I can still remember mowing grass and plowing snow with this old Horse when I was a kid. The old tractor had belonged to my father who thought the world of this Old Red Horse. You can only imagine the look and smile my father had every time he mounted the Red Horse.

Daniel :thumbs:

[noncritical 5]

thanks TT and everyone else good link

[WheelHorse_of_course 99]

Miles

Actually, between aftermarket parts, ebay, and this group the Horses are being kept alive.

Just as with vintage cars sometimes it takes some ingenuity.

The good news is once you replace the clutch it should last 40 years assuming you adjust it if it ever starts to slip.

All the best

:thumbs:

[CasualObserver 3,411]

(that has been sold twice since 1972)

Pssst.... TT... it's three times since 1972. :whistle:

[TT-(Moderator) 1,162]

it's three times since 1972.

Who'd I miss, Jason?

AMC took over right around 1973, and Toro was passed the reins somewhere around 1987. :thumbs:

[CasualObserver 3,411]

1974 WH sold to American Motors (AMC)

1982 sold to Munn Investment Group (a group of private investors)

1986 sold to Toro.

[TT-(Moderator) 1,162]

Ah-ha! That would explain it.

I don't know anyone with Munn-ey. :thumbs:

[CasualObserver 3,411]

Hrrmmm... now I need to find a "snickering" smiley. Perhaps later I'll have time to look.

[Miles 1]

Here's a great site to check out:

Industrial Brake & Clutch Exchange

Contacted Industrial Brake & Exchange today by phone about the refacing of the PTO Plate. They assured me their would be no problem in doing the work. I will pull it off and send it to them and they should have it back to me within a week. Thanks guys for the information.......... :thumbs:

[Buzz 502]

That's good to hear . Did they give you a price to do it? If it's not too expensive and it comes out good, a link to their company ought to be posted somewhere in the forum. maybe a sticky for company where you can get hard to find parts made up.

[sorekiwi 761]

The same company would probably be able to do the brake bands too...

[TT-(Moderator) 1,162]

Industrial Brake Company out of Mars, PA (north of Pittsburgh) is another possibility when it comes to friction surface replacement.

There are plenty of other industrial crane parts & service companies out there - I'm just trying to remember a few who used to service the equipment where I used to work. :thumbs:

[Tankman 3,523]

Nice post, earmarked a lot of good advice.

Brake bands and clutch rework shouldn't be a problem in the future.

Thanks for the information Gentlemen! :ychain:

[specialwheelhorse 174]

FYI Contact Bearing and Supply of Tupelo

837 Senter Street Tupelo Ms.38801

office (662) 840-8099

Explane to them size ID OD and thickness

The last time there I bought 2 6 inch discs and a 6 and a half

just to have spares The cost was twenty some bucks for all

I did buy a 6 inch a couple years ago and worked fine.

I have no idea what they are for but they sure carried them

the last time there. Even if they dont carry them now

They will tell you where to get them.