whlpny 201 #1 Posted January 9, 2009 Some time ago I had a friend at work tell me that he did this little trick on his JD and it made the tractor hold the ground like it was on rails when angle plowing. I had told my Brother in law about it this fall so he decided to give it a try. Heres a couple pics so you can see what I 'm talking about. He has a 417 and sent me these pics- he says it does work- tractor plows snow like its on rails. He simply took some #40 rolller chain, sized it to fit around the tire while uninflated. Then he aired it up while centering the chain in the tread. He says it stays right where it is without sliding off and works awesome. Just thought I'd pass this along in case someone wants to give it a whirl. I may try it on my C-120 and see what happens with the 54 In plow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,028 #2 Posted January 9, 2009 And I just bought tire chains to put on my front tires, I may have to try that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy da Bear 11 #3 Posted January 9, 2009 I was wondering if it would offer "any" traction if put on the rear tires? (bigger roller chain or worn out chainsaw chain?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 19,568 #4 Posted January 9, 2009 I was wondering if it would offer "any" traction if put on the rear tires? (bigger roller chain or worn out chainsaw chain?) I doubt it Mike. I'll bet they will help with left and right slipping but not as much with forward and reverse. Mike....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poodle 0 #5 Posted January 9, 2009 hey let us know how well it does or doesn't work and maybe a vid if ya can I have that problem with mine it moves the snow but steering is a challenge I live I Taunton mass we've had some decent snow fall this year one storm about two feet and no problems yet well I did break a tire chain but she still moved no sweat I fixed her and no problems other than that slight set back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebo-(Moderator) 8,041 #6 Posted January 9, 2009 anyone know where to get a good used set of these?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,128 #7 Posted January 9, 2009 anyone know where to get a good used set of these?? A good used "set" of worn out pieces of roller chain? Ummmmmm..... it's not really something you normally buy used, but you could always check eBay or your local ATV / cycle shop. (if you have one) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,406 #8 Posted January 9, 2009 I'm with TT there... I'd start with motorcycle repair shops and perhaps a cycle salvage yard if you have one nearby. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #9 Posted January 9, 2009 Great Idea! Thanks for sharing, I can see where that would work great on the fronts! I wonder how an Epoxy coated garage floor would hold up under that :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebo-(Moderator) 8,041 #10 Posted January 9, 2009 is that all they are is motorcycle chains?? that should be easy enough. my brother and i were just talking about how to get the front tires to stick when plowing. he was thinking of adding spikes but that would ruin a good set of tires. great idea, thanks for sharing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bell 11 #11 Posted January 9, 2009 That is a GREAT idea! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
perry 82 #12 Posted January 9, 2009 looks like a good idea. ill have to dig me up some chain and see if it works better than the tire chains i have on now. ill put it to the test . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whlpny 201 #13 Posted January 9, 2009 I think I have some extra #30 roller chain on the shelve, I may see how that works. It's been a while since I bought it, but doesn't seem as if it was really too expensive. Tractor Supply Co is an easy walk in source for roller chain of several sizes. I wouldn't waste alot of time running around looking for used chain until I checked the price of new. Might not be worth the time and fuel! If these guys tell me it works - I believe them so I think its worth a try! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy da Bear 11 #14 Posted January 9, 2009 Doesn't have to be motorcycle chain. I think bicycle chain would work the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 14 #15 Posted January 9, 2009 Cheap used roller chain source? Bicycle shop! Even cheaper source? Yard sale bicycles! Pick up a bike or two, pull the chains, and resell what's left (Probably could even make a profit.). Stevebo mentioned spiked fronts. I recall seeing pics of a tractor for sale that had sheet metal screws put into the lugs of some rear ag tires and turf fronts. Long enough to hold but not so long that they punctured the tire. The guy claimed they were hard enough to grip ice, but soft enough not to damage his garage floor (Although I interpret that to mean the heads would wear off pretty quickly on a paved surface.). Anybody ever try that approach? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,128 #16 Posted January 9, 2009 A bicycle chain is too narrow to support itself and would probably lay over the instant the front end started to push sideways. I'm sure it would be harder on the tires too - possibly breaking the cords due to the concentrated area of pressure. You could probably weld a few pieces side by side, but by the time you're done messing with it you could find/buy regular roller chain and have it installed. Chainsaw chain is a definite no-no because of the drive teeth on the underside. Is anyone running triple rib fronts on their plow tractors????? :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,462 #17 Posted January 9, 2009 I took a long time to debate the steer tires , really wanted to use the 3 rib type in the front to complete the "baby farm tractor" look with the rear ags . Ended up getting a set of narrow ags for the front and haven't looked back - they track perfect and bite very well even on ice with the front wheel weights when plowing . The roller chain idea is pretty cool . Sarge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian1045 28 #18 Posted January 9, 2009 Hell for $10 (plus shipping) you get 10' of #35 here. http://www.antonline.com/p_06351-GP_329649.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bitten 133 #19 Posted January 9, 2009 I just got new front turf tires for my D and am hoping with front wheel weights it should work good. If not I will certinatly try the roller trick. Do the front weights help that much? I got them more or less just to have them but that was before I got a plow for the D and they wouldn't go on the 310-8 that I have used the past few years. P.J. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 14 #20 Posted January 9, 2009 A bicycle chain is too narrow to support itself and would probably lay over the instant the front end started to push sideways. I'm sure it would be harder on the tires too - possibly breaking the cords due to the concentrated area of pressure. You could probably weld a few pieces side by side, but by the time you're done messing with it you could find/buy regular roller chain and have it installed. Chainsaw chain is a definite no-no because of the drive teeth on the underside. Is anyone running triple rib fronts on their plow tractors????? Not all bikes use the old tall, narrow chains anymore Terry. The ones on my daughter's bikes are much wider than they are tall, so they would work. I think you'de have to have them pretty tight and the tire aired up way too much to damage the cords. But after seeing the link that Brian put up I wouldn't waste the gas to go "treasure" hunting. Seems like I recall a thread about the tri ribs in which someone mentioned that they track pretty well in mud and snow. I'm with ya on the chain saw chain! But at least with those deeth dug into the tread it wouldn't be too prone to slipping sideways. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catman81056 3 #21 Posted January 10, 2009 I just got new front turf tires for my D and am hoping with front wheel weights it should work good. If not I will certinatly try the roller trick. Do the front weights help that much? I got them more or less just to have them but that was before I got a plow for the D and they wouldn't go on the 310-8 that I have used the past few years. P.J. I think the wheel weights will really help on everything except hard packed snow and on ice. I think thats where the chain on the tires would really shine. Just my .02. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoosier 1 #22 Posted January 10, 2009 Is anyone running triple rib fronts on their plow tractors????? I am. I like them. I don't feel any need to swap out for anything else. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whlpny 201 #23 Posted January 10, 2009 Well I checked my supply of #30 roller and fell shy by 3 inches of makeing it around one tire.Since the wife and I were going out on the town I hit the TSC and grabbed a 10ft package of #40 roller and a pack of connectors and spent $20.65. Hopefully I can get the stuff sized up Sat. and see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coadster32 793 #24 Posted January 10, 2009 Do the front weights help that much? I think you can get more weight by loading the tires with a liquid ballast. My 551 had loaded tires and weigh alot, probably 30lbs each. The weights I see are only 8lbs. I assume that with bigger tires, the same can be said. I'm curious about loaded 3-rib ties myself. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #25 Posted January 10, 2009 Didn't I see on a post somewhere that someone recommended the Snohog tires like Ariens and some other walk-behind snowchucker manufacturers use on their drive wheels? I've got a set on my Ariens and brother, do they dig in! I'm actually looking at a set for 312-8 #2 which will be my "off road" tractor! Jusk a thought..... Duff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites