iicap 1 #1 Posted January 8, 2009 Hello all, new user here. Hope it's ok say hi here, not to computer savy and fumbling my way around. You guys are great. I've had all my snowblower ?'s answered just by reading all 2009 posts. All the tech is great, but your good natured kidding, comeback oneliners lets me know your a fun bunch. Aquired my 2 WH's maybe 10 years ago as freebies. 1st is a C-161 as per hood decals, no attchments. 2nd one was painted by someone and I don't know model only have ID # plate below dash panel which is 01-08K802-12371 & below that is 0074. It came with 36" rear discharge deck and snowplow. It had 8 HP Kohler with hole in the block. Put 16 from the C-161 on it and have been using for years. Just put on used snowblower I picked up. Sorry about so long winded. Thanks Richard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod(NASNUT) 1 #2 Posted January 8, 2009 :hide: It looks like your 2nd one is a C-81 a 1981 from the model # you have if you can get the model # off the other one and we can tell you what year it is. Again :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,602 #3 Posted January 8, 2009 Your mystery tractor is a 1981 C-81. It should look like this: http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=5098 Your C-161 is either a 1978 or 1979. There were 2 different C-161s, one was just a C-161 with a single cylinder 16 hp Kohler, and the other was a C-161 Twin with a 16 hp twin cylinder Briggs on it. Here's what a C-161 looks like: http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=3742 And here's what a C-161 Twin looks like: http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=933 BTW, :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #4 Posted January 8, 2009 I hate to be the one to question this, but that doesn't seem right. To my knowledge the C-81 tractors should be 1978/1979 model years only, and anything from 1980 and up would be C-85 models. (open the first "sheetmetal and covers" plate @ the MPV under that model number and you will actually see a "black hood" in the IPL) Yes, I know that's how the Toro MPV and PartsTree both list that model under that number, but they have been proven wrong before. , Richard. Can you tell us if your 01-08K802 is the same style as the C-161, or is it more like this one? : (thanks, T-Mo!) BTW - I moved this to the "tractors" forum. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,602 #5 Posted January 8, 2009 TT, I didn't think that seem right either, but here's what I found on the Toro site: Like you said, it has been wrong before. And thank Jon, he will be the new owner of that C-125 this Saturday, if all goes well. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #7 Posted January 8, 2009 Richard, let me join the gang in saying, ! Glad you found us! Ask anything, post often, and around here ! Oh...for posting pictures, try: http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1071 BTW, where are you from? Best wishes, Duff :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy da Bear 11 #10 Posted January 8, 2009 :hide: Richard...... Post often....ask lots of questions... Put your location in your signature when you get a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bell 11 #11 Posted January 8, 2009 Richard, T-mo, that is a GOOD looking C-125! I'll see you Saturday morning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcwh1950 2 #14 Posted January 9, 2009 I hate to be the one to question this, but that doesn't seem right. To my knowledge the C-81 tractors should be 1978/1979 model years only, and anything from 1980 and up would be C-85 models. (open the first "sheetmetal and covers" plate @ the MPV under that model number and you will actually see a "black hood" in the IPL) Yes, I know that's how the Toro MPV and PartsTree both list that model under that number, but they have been proven wrong before. , Richard. Can you tell us if your 01-08K802 is the same style as the C-161, or is it more like this one? : (thanks, T-Mo!) BTW - I moved this to the "tractors" forum. i confused on this one. i thought the c-161 use both the square red hood and black hood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #15 Posted January 9, 2009 i confused on this one. i thought the c-161 use both the square red hood and black hood. We're talking about a C-85, Smitty. (Toro says a model # 01-08K802 is a 1981 C-81 - which should be a C-85 in that year.) The C-161 TWIN did use a fiberglass hood that closely resembles the steel black hood used on the C-__5 models. The C-161 with the single-cylinder Kohler used the same style of hood/grille as the 1970 to 1977 tractors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iicap 1 #16 Posted January 9, 2009 Gonna try reply for the third time, keep losing it as I go back to check what you all said so I can reply to it, told ya I'm not computer savy and I'm an old man, 66 and just retired. Thanks to all for the great welcome. Mystery Horse looks like the one posted by TT with wide metal hood that flares down narrow to meet the dash/cowl. Now for the C-161, not here for me to go look at but will tomm. I think it has a round hood. and if I recall yrs ago the ID tag is on the frame. This is the one I'd like to redo as it has that classic big tractor look. I'll get #'s and get pics also Will take pics of both and wife and I will try to post. Thanks to whoever it was that told how to post pics, not going back and look as I know Ill lose all and will have to start over for the fourth time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #17 Posted January 9, 2009 Richard, when you want to check what others have said, simply scroll down on the same page you're composing your message on. The last ten posts will be there for you to look at. You can scroll up and down to check messages and add more words to your own. ***Do NOT hit the back button or you will lose your message as you've already found out!*** I've made that mistake a few times with my fumble fingers! Whoever designed the software for this site had the forethought to realize we would often be responding to an earlier post (message) so they set it up to make it easy to look at previous messages just by scrolling down the page - nice piece of work! (Good thing, because I'm a relative computer idiot!) Good luck and look forward to hearing more from you! Duff :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iicap 1 #18 Posted January 9, 2009 Hey Duff, thanks for the heads up on sending a reply. going to get pics today and see if we can get them off to you guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod(NASNUT) 1 #19 Posted January 9, 2009 (Toro says a model # 01-08K802 is a 1981 C-81 - which should be a C-85 in that year.) Thats is what I come up with a 1981 C Series Garden Tractor C-81 8-Speed Kohler Model# 401707-30743D 8HP . But then I could be wrong if I am I am sorry :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iicap 1 #20 Posted January 10, 2009 Ok folks, even tho I'm a greenhorn at this I pay mind to all you are sending. I found and saved Toro Master Parts Viewer. I think you refer to as TMV. The Horse at my sons has this ID on it 81-16K802 11574 and below that 8108. TMV says its a 1978 C-161 8 speed tractor. It does have the earlier hood with release at the rear center of the hood. I have pics of both machines and better half and I will try to post over weekend. ? on the other #'s on the ID plate(s), as above 11574 and 8108, might they be S/N and something particular about that tractor. And just get a bit more knowedge if anyone knows. Were tractors shipped from the factory with attachments on them or were they all dealer installed. The reason I ask is because the I got the C-161 with none and wondering what it might have had on it new. Thanks again, Richard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy da Bear 11 #21 Posted January 10, 2009 The C-161 was capable of mowing with a 48" deck. But could have any size of 3 common sizes put on at owner's request. 36 or 42" side or rear discharge...and the 48" which was side discharge only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #22 Posted January 10, 2009 The Toro master parts viewer is affectionately referred to as the Toro MPV or just MPV most of the time around here. The serial number of your C-161 is 11574 which means absolutely nothing most of the time. In the newer years the serial number was used to split up model years of equipment using the same model number. Example: A model number 78345 mower deck with a S/N of "X" through "Y" is a 1994, while S/N "Y" through "Z" is a 1995. (I hope you followed that!) The last number is supposedly the Julian date code which shows exactly when the piece of equipment was manufactured. 8108 = the 108th day of 1978, or June 29th, 1978. I rarely ever pay attention to this number and only have two tractors new enough to even have it. With the exception of a few models, most Wheel Horse tractors were sold as "tractor only" with attachments, accessories, and implements available separately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iicap 1 #23 Posted January 10, 2009 T da B and TT thanks on info, I'm learnin. Now i need to search for Maintenence Info, particularly correct lube for Uni-Drive unit, want to change mine as tho full, the lube is rusty colored, Thanks Richard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #24 Posted January 10, 2009 There are many posts on RedSquare concerning the flushing and refilling of the Uni-Drive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
