Jimmy0331 27 #1 Posted November 18, 2016 Hi all new to site and still learning to navigate. But I have a 69 raider 12 6spd. My question is about the snow thrower. How tight should the drive chain be for the auger. If it is to tight auger won't spin and if it is loose the chain slaps. Having some issues finding sweet spot. Any suggestions. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 28,589 #2 Posted November 18, 2016 You are on the right site!!! Someone with the answer will be along shortly, I have no doubt! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,168 #3 Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) Is the auger interfering with the housing? Are all the bearings OK? A tight chain should not lock up the auger. I suspect you have a bad bearing(s) in the drive train or a bent auger that is rubbing the housing. to the Edited November 18, 2016 by Ed Kennell 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,499 #4 Posted November 18, 2016 Normally , I adjust till there is 1/2 to 3/4 inch play. Will have to check for you to be double sure, rest assured others will chime in. Can you post a pic of your blower? We need to investigate more, it should spin. Yo jimmy, where in nj, you can see I am in middletown....and....... to red square. Glenn 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #6 Posted November 18, 2016 I am right down the road in Matawan. All bearings were replaced and auger is not bent. It was working great I tightened chain and now she won't turn. But if I loosen it up she spins free but chain feels to loose to me. This is my first wheel horse so still learning. Thanks all. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,522 #7 Posted November 18, 2016 The chain is rubbing on something in the last picture. There is a flat spot worn on the links. The auger sprocket appears to be in excellent condition. I would get a 10' length of chain which makes 2 and replace it. A worn chain is what wears the sprockets. With the chain off feel the condition of the bearings in the idlers and auger. Would you mind checking the model and serial number? I see 6-6212 and 642879 but hard to read. This may be a 1970 model. Garry 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,168 #8 Posted November 18, 2016 Good eyes Garry. The chain is probably stretched so long it rubs the housing at the tensioning pulley when it is pulled tight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,522 #9 Posted November 18, 2016 Has to be rubbing at a sprocket somewhere because the worn flats are lined up at the sprocket. Where the chain is straight the worn flats are offset. May be caused by a guard over the chain at a sprocket. Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,858 #10 Posted November 18, 2016 If you can pull up the chain links from the sprocket more than half way, the chain and/or the sprocket is worn. Now go get a spray can of chain lube and lube it after each use. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #11 Posted November 18, 2016 I cut two links out of chain and added a half link. That's what started this whole project. The chain was stretched it was maxed out on tensioner. I think the noise is comming from the chain slapping top of chain closer to the jack shaft. Yeah the model is 6-6212. A little history how I acquired the tractor is an older fella bought it brand new in 1969 he got sick and has been sitting since 1973. His children didn't want anything to do with it. So I bought for $500.00. Came with mower deck, trailer, grass catcher, and the snowthtower. I rebuilt the carb new battery and new fuel tank all new belts and she fired right up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #12 Posted November 18, 2016 As others have said, chain is cheap. Put on a new one and save this one for a front wheel for steering help... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
857 horse 2,588 #13 Posted November 18, 2016 This is my first wheel horse so still learning. Thanks all. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,<-------------- What Jimmy just said. yup................61 and still learning// 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #14 Posted November 19, 2016 Yeah that's what I'll do get a length of chain and go from there. It worked fine until I started messing with it. But the chain was stretched to the max. So had no choice. Thanks for all the info. I'll keep everyone updated and post some pics asap. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,499 #15 Posted November 22, 2016 On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Jimmy0331 said: Yeah that's what I'll do get a length of chain and go from there. It worked fine until I started messing with it. But the chain was stretched to the max. So had no choice. Thanks for all the info. I'll keep everyone updated and post some pics asap. #40 roller chain, you can get it right on route 36 at that mower place on the Hazlet, Union Beach border. Or call Cerliones mower shop rt 35 Hazlet. I got mine last year at the rt. 36 place, cant remember the name....... best of luck, keep us posted. Glenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,499 #16 Posted November 22, 2016 On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Jimmy0331 said: Yeah that's what I'll do get a length of chain and go from there. It worked fine until I started messing with it. But the chain was stretched to the max. So had no choice. Thanks for all the info. I'll keep everyone updated and post some pics asap. #40 roller chain, you can get it right on route 36 at that mower place on the Hazlet, Union Beach border. Or call Cerliones mower shop rt 35 Hazlet. I got mine last year at the rt. 36 place, cant remember the name....... best of luck, keep us posted. Glenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,939 #17 Posted November 22, 2016 Those sprockets don't look new. If your chain was worn out and has been for a long time I bet the bearings in those sprockets are shot as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 7,296 #18 Posted November 22, 2016 At the very least, when you pull off the old chain spin the idler sprockets to see how the bearings feel. You can take them off and force grease into the bearings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #19 Posted November 24, 2016 Yeah I'll try that Mower place in hazlet. How can you tell if bearings r shot on sprockets? They spin free but I will replace what I can while it's apart. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving. Just welded up this mount for a small winch. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #20 Posted November 24, 2016 The teeth on sprockets look good they're not hooked or worn. Glenn have you ever used potter and son for parts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy0331 27 #21 Posted November 26, 2016 Does anyone's wheel horse have a cigarette lighter? Mine does and it works. Was that a special option or standard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,242 #22 Posted November 27, 2016 standard equipment on some models back in the day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,499 #23 Posted November 27, 2016 On Thursday, November 24, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Jimmy0331 said: The teeth on sprockets look good they're not hooked or worn. Glenn have you ever used potter and son for parts? Sure I do, I live right near them. PRICEY Glenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,465 #24 Posted November 27, 2016 Very common stock part in many of the '60s tractors - don't lose it , they are quite pricey to replace if you can find one in good shape . I still smoke , and they work great - all mine still have their original elements . Sarge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites