C-101plowerpower 1,606 #1 Posted June 6, 2016 i was looking on kleinanzeigen ebay and found this little guy for sale near stuttgart https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/kleintraktor-aehnlich-hako-kubota-iseki-wheel-horse-fuer-bastler/476627984-276-8441 there are more images but i cant save them www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de search for Kleintraktor ähnlich Hako Kubota Iseki Wheel Horse für Bastler i'd buy it if it wasn't so far away and i didn't have to much projects 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,274 #2 Posted June 6, 2016 I was looking at the other pictures Koen. That is not a Wheel Horse transmission...is he saying it is off a Kabota?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #3 Posted June 6, 2016 1 minute ago, stevasaurus said: I was looking at the other pictures Koen. That is not a Wheel Horse transmission...is he saying it is off a Kabota?? are you sure about the transmission? might be one of the very early once that supposedly got exported? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 59,746 #4 Posted June 6, 2016 Looks like a 3 piece to me. 3 piece 2.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #5 Posted June 6, 2016 Just now, 953 nut said: Looks like a 3 piece to me. 3 piece 2.html that's what i was thinking, the link has more pics of the transmission 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,411 #6 Posted June 6, 2016 Here are the other pictures. Definitely appears to be similar to a WH 3 piece trans, but the shifter seems off center in the pictures. Weird. Being a smooth hood, I wonder if this is an early one of the RJ-35 converted to 3-speed kits? Or is that a converted hood from something else that is just coincidentally shaped similarly? I don't know of many people who could identify that. @rj35hunter @VinsRJ @Wheelhorsestory @evanloock @whlpny 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #7 Posted June 6, 2016 thanks for getting the other pictures up Jason, couldn't save the other pictures somehow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,274 #8 Posted June 6, 2016 I know it looks like a Wheel Horse transmission, and it has all the external parts. The flat tension pulley is 58/59 RJ. The axle is different. The casting is completely different, ie...shifter is off center, the 2 set screws with lock nuts, that other bolt in front of the shifter, the bolt pattern in the side plates and casting are also not like the #5003 / #5010, and the brake band mount appears to be less then on a 45 degree angle. Like Jason said, it may be something special, but it's not like anything I have seen. In the 7th picture Jason posted, notice the shaft that protrudes the side plate in front of the brake drum and under the shifter. The inside of that trans has to be set up different also. Very interesting for sure. Dang, I want to open that sucker up. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,411 #9 Posted June 6, 2016 Looking a little more at the pics, I think this is just a complete home made job that made use of whatever parts they could find. A remarkably clever junkyard pup. Who knows... maybe an early attempt at reverse engineering with some scrapped parts? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,274 #10 Posted June 6, 2016 I would be inclined to agree with you Jason, except for the casting. The build out for the bolts in the middle are not even there. And the off center shift...where did that come from. But then there is RED paint showing under the green on the bottom of the casting in a few pictures. I really want to open this up. This is one heck of a fabrication, if that is what this is. We are talking about a casting here. I think this trans is off of something, but what?? Did the Ponds make their transmission from looking at this??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #11 Posted June 6, 2016 is it me or doesn't that hood have no ridge where the two bits are welded together? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 59,746 #12 Posted June 6, 2016 33 minutes ago, C-101plowerpower said: is it me or doesn't that hood have no ridge where the two bits are welded together? Could be one of the Fiberglass Hoods! I WOULD SURE MAKE ROOM FOR IT IN MY BARN. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 12,040 #13 Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/6/2016 at 3:39 PM, stevasaurus said: I know it looks like a Wheel Horse transmission, and it has all the external parts. The flat tension pulley is 58/59 RJ. The axle is different. The casting is completely different, ie...shifter is off center, the 2 set screws with lock nuts, that other bolt in front of the shifter, the bolt pattern in the side plates and casting are also not like the #5003 / #5010, and the brake band mount appears to be less then on a 45 degree angle. Like Jason said, it may be something special, but it's not like anything I have seen. In the 7th picture Jason posted, notice the shaft that protrudes the side plate in front of the brake drum and under the shifter. The inside of that trans has to be set up different also. Very interesting for sure. Dang, I want to open that sucker up. Very interesting and mysterious indeed. Why don't we all get together, buy it and bring it over? Among many of us can't amount to that much. I am sure I have spent more than that in stupid stuff. Then we let Steve dig into it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,766 #14 Posted June 8, 2016 Make it or call it a $5 fund for research or we just half to know. Then put it in some ones barn in Pa. So they can bring it to the big show every year as a center peace. Just my 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #15 Posted June 8, 2016 6 hours ago, T1257 RETIRED WRENCHER. said: Make it or call it a $5 fund for research or we just half to know. Then put it in some ones barn in Pa. So they can bring it to the big show every year as a center peace. Just my Or raffle it off 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 59,746 #16 Posted June 8, 2016 31 minutes ago, C-101plowerpower said: Or raffle it off Wonder how much it would cost to have it shipped to the states and how many tickets would need to be sold to pull this off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #17 Posted June 8, 2016 did a quick research and came out on about 1600 dollars shipped to steve's front door 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,766 #18 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) So1.600 divide by 20.000 plus members is? Edited June 9, 2016 by T1257 RETIRED WRENCHER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 12,040 #19 Posted June 9, 2016 How about 32 of us at $50.00 each? Sounds easier to accomplish to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,195 #20 Posted June 9, 2016 Gotta be better than watching paint dry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #21 Posted June 10, 2016 7 hours ago, formariz said: How about 32 of us at $50.00 each? Sounds easier to accomplish to me. Sounds very doable, Let me know when to go get it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 12,040 #22 Posted June 10, 2016 4 hours ago, C-101plowerpower said: Sounds very doable, Let me know when to go get it I am very serious. Anyone else up to it? Can you translate everything that he says about it on it? Could we also contact him and try to get a bit more history on it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #23 Posted June 10, 2016 5 hours ago, formariz said: I am very serious. Anyone else up to it? Can you translate everything that he says about it on it? Could we also contact him and try to get a bit more history on it? Im up for it, i'll massage the seller that im interested as soon as i can use the PC, my phone isnt coöperating today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #24 Posted June 10, 2016 right, translating time i'm selling a little tractor of unknow origin. year of manufacturing is also unknown total lenght 1.55 meters(5ft 1) total width (2 ft) 4 speed gearbox 3x forward 1x reverse rear tires hold air, tire size is 6-16. on the front there are wheelbarrow tires mounted. one of the tires doesn't hold air. engine and rear fenders aren't with it. seat is also not with it. or make me an realistic offer no shipping, pickup only 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-101plowerpower 1,606 #25 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) some more pics Edited June 10, 2016 by C-101plowerpower 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites