Chad 0 #1 Posted March 1, 2016 Trying to find a tiller for my wheelhorse 314hydro. I'm a newbie to these tractors and really getting into them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prondzy 3,889 #2 Posted March 1, 2016 Post this in the wanted ads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc724 925 #3 Posted March 1, 2016 Welcome to Red Square! Tillers are around. Keep your eyes pealed on RS classifieds and CL. Expect to pay $300-350 depending on your area. Make sure the tiller comes with the rear tach o matic, rockshaft and cable assembly and front pulley assembly (and a helper spring if you are not using a hydro). If these do not come with it, it will not work and you could be looking at an additional $100-$125 to get all these parts. Make sure the tines are not worn. Worn tines look like sharks teeth and you will not be able to till as deep into the earth. The tiller will work, just not as efficiently. Finally, tillers work best with a manual transmission. With a hydro, the tiller will overcome the hydro and push the tractor-just so you are not surprised. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 994 #4 Posted March 1, 2016 I agree thar hydros arnt very good with the tiller,it can do it but not nearly as well as a gear tractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad 0 #5 Posted March 1, 2016 Thanks guys. Yea the garden has been tilled th pat 3 years, so it's pretty loose. Was wondering if the hydro would do it though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312Hydro 474 #6 Posted March 1, 2016 I've been tilling with my 312h for 3 years now and it works fine for me. Yes ,as the others have mentioned it will push you but I just use the brake if I need it. As you make more passes it will push less each time.I also like to use a plow first and then till, for me it gets the job done quicker. Great advice about the tiller tines and you will need the belt,under seat rockshaft and tube,plus the tiller mid mount pulleys. Get as much as you can with the tiller as these extra parts could add up to another $400 if you need them all. Look under the fender on top of the tranny and you may find the tube as some hydros came with them. Fortunately, if you do a search on the forum you will find all the information you need to make the rock shaft, and tiller mid mount pulleys for much less. I wouldn't skimp on the belt and just buy the Wheel Horse belt for your tractor. It's pricey but I doubt if it will wear out with proper care. Since I don't have a gear drive tractor, I'm going to show my wife this thread with your comments. Maybe it will help her understand why I need that third Wheel Horse ! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WNYPCRepair 1,923 #7 Posted March 1, 2016 If you ever get up to Buffalo, I have one, with everything you need except the rock shaft (too lazy to take it off mine) but you can buy one here (from Wheelhorseman1000, I believe). It has worn tines, but I hooked it up and it works, and I have a brand new Toro belt. I don't plow or till, I do raised bed, no till gardening. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAinVA 4,637 #8 Posted March 1, 2016 The most important consideration when buying a tiller attachment is the condition of the tines.The completeness of the package as mentioned is important as well.Tines that come to a point are worn out.They stir up the soil but really won't work the way they were designed to function.They are also a good indication of total run time on the unit. New tines are way to pricey to even consider.JAinVA 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 11,405 #9 Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Chad: I think that you have a tractor that would be perfect for application of a Wheel Horse tiller attachment. Take you time to buy a good one. I have been using one the last two years. I put it on my 1979 Wheel Horse C-121 -8 Speed. My tiller is an early 1990's model I bought from a Professor in a nearby town. The tines had one side wrapped in nylon clothes line and some wire which needed to be removed. I used two years ago in my garden (60 x 100). Last year I had to change the oil seals on the one side that the nylon clothes line had run around as I noticed a small leak of gear oil from the case. All and all I would say the Wheel Horse tiller attachment surprised my how well it worked. I had the extra lift assist spring installed as the tillers heavy on the back of a tractor. A hydro lift on a tractor would make it easier to use. One of the things I found interesting is that with such a long belt to turn the tiller the belt would often jump off if you shut the tiller off using the PTO. I found I could lift the tiller when finishing a row of work and turning the tractor that I could keep the tiller PTO engaged and turning the tines and not jump the belt off. Here is my setup with my friend Steve operating the tractor. THIS IS A LINK TO THE TILLER IN ACTION VIDEO: 241.MOV Edited March 1, 2016 by Lane Ranger 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,051 #10 Posted March 1, 2016 to Chad. If you don't find a tiller before, I am sure there will be several for sale at the Big WH Show in June. The show is at the South Mt Fairgrounds about 10 mile North of you. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc724 925 #11 Posted March 1, 2016 15 hours ago, Lane Ranger said: One of the things I found interesting is that with such a long belt to turn the tiller the belt would often jump off if you shut the tiller off using the PTO. Lane, I have not had any issue with the belt jumping off, but I did have some wear on one side of the belt. I traced the problem to the rear idler pulley which was not quite straight. With the long run to the mid mount idler, it does not have to be off much to make the belt want to walk to one side. I bent the support bracket for the rear idler by a tiny bit and the problem is gone. P.S. My tiller is on my 1978 C141. I am always amazed at what these old machines can do! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 994 #12 Posted March 1, 2016 yes chad your 314-h will work just fine(as already stated by other s)don't let my statement shy you from putting one on your hydro,if you have never tilled with a gear tractor you probally wouldn't know what we are talking about anyway,mine on my 312-h certainly worked,it just gets pushed along here and there,and yes a few more passes is required but the good is you get more seat time,and tilling is quite enjoyable,at least for me,and the hydro lift is a bonus,heres my 1975 36 inch tiller,its in nice shape so im sure you will find a nice one 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 11,405 #13 Posted March 1, 2016 I will have to stick my head under there and check out the line of sight along the belt. I think I may move the tiller to my 1993 Wheel Horse 314 8 speed this year. I did put on a new belt last year mid-season as mine was the original belt I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad 0 #15 Posted March 1, 2016 15 hours ago, ekennell said: to Chad. If you don't find a tiller before, I am sure there will be several for sale at the Big WH Show in June. The show is at the South Mt Fairgrounds about 10 mile North of you. Who you know of one In Biglersville this weekend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,051 #16 Posted March 1, 2016 Don't know of one for sale this weekend Chad. The big Wheel Horse show I am referring to is in June. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
