BPjunk 184 #1 Posted December 2, 2008 Now that turkey day is over we can get back to the subject of when the model 1045 was actuly produced. To help get this information I will need serial numbers of the model 1045. The serial number will be on a small white decal on the hood stand, if you have the serial number reply to this post. What I can tell you is that Wheel Horse started to produce their "new" models at the end of the company's fiscal year which is in the month of September. Wild Bill in Richmond, Va. Attached Image Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian1045 28 #2 Posted December 3, 2008 21533 It just comes down to this I suppose. No matter what model it is....1045,875,1054...etc. Is the third number the year? Or is it the 4th? One of those numbers means electric start ...right? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BairleaFarm 339 #3 Posted December 3, 2008 I thought the 4th number was the year of production and the 3rd number was the tranny. Why is this in question? Im :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #4 Posted December 3, 2008 Bill Ive been trying to round up some serial numbers with that type of tag mounted on the side of the tower ...so far it falls in line after some of the 1964 models, maybe with more data we can figure out more Model - Serial -604 -7859 -654 -15561 -1045 -21533 -1045 -22018 -1045 -22141 -1045 -22494 We need more 604, 654 and 704 numbers plus anyone who has a 1045 Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BPjunk 184 #5 Posted December 3, 2008 Michael, I am in the need of model 1045 serial numbers only, it will be these serial numbers that I can get the starting date for the production of the model 1045. From what has been found already ..... the 1045 may have had production started as early as fall of 1963. Wild Bill in Richmond, Va. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #6 Posted December 3, 2008 great! ..I was thinking since the label was the same type as some of the 64 models it might help to see where they fell in line. (because im guessing the 1045 serials are running in sequence with these models) Just from what Ive seen but Im not 100% on this yet,,,but it appears the serial numbers restart with different frame types..anyway I figure it out one day ,,,Im composing a spreadsheet with serial numbers from every tractors I that i can find, so far thing are lining up better than I expected Cant wait to see the end results! :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian1045 28 #7 Posted December 3, 2008 So were to assume the 1045's started in the 21xxx? If you subtract the lowest serial number we have on record in here from the highest serial number....there are 961 tractors in between. Be pretty cool of we could verify that 1100 mark. We're close now Attached Image (Click thumbnail to expand) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,406 #8 Posted December 3, 2008 You can't just subtract the serial numbers, well... not typically anyway. Wheel Horse used a consecutive numbering, but had multiple models on the lines at the same time. The different models were written in different colors of ink in the production ledgers. For example... In one day they would build a run of 25-603s followed by 50-633s followed by 10-753s and then another 25-603s. It all depended on what was ready and available to go on the line, as well as what needed to be built for shipping. Give Bill some time with this, get him as many serial numbers as possilbe. He will get an answer, but he (or someone) is going to have to spend time looking at those pages of the old ledgers. And from what I understand... theres a bunch of them and they have several hundred hand written pages each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMESS 24 #9 Posted December 3, 2008 GET ME these pages! I have A LOT of free time watching a 4 year old all day long! :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #10 Posted December 3, 2008 what old ledgers are you speaking of? I never new any existed or what they even consist of Yes send me a copy too!! Digging up serial numbers is a difficult task!! P.S although I have yet to find a tractor with a serial number that falls inbetween the numbers on the 1045 model are members have list here...although I know thats a small sample :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 13 #11 Posted December 3, 2008 Once again I regret not keeping records of what I buy and sell. Around November of last year I sold a 1045 on ebay that went up to WI or maybe it was MN. Maybe next time I'll keep the pictures and serial numbers. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,406 #12 Posted December 3, 2008 There are no distributable copies of the ledgers, nor will there be any made. I've asked. They are in the Wheel Horse Master Engineering File archive at Toro, and there they'll stay. I offered to organize and make a database for free and was told there is not enough justification (for Toro's money) to spend time copying or computerizing them at this point. It would take too long for no significant useful purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHARGER9AUTO 3 #13 Posted December 5, 2008 :hide: Now that turkey day is over we can get back to the subject of when the model 1045 was actuly produced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rollerman 290 #14 Posted December 6, 2008 Bill have #22018 here. By the way...seens pics of Joe Papke's 1045 with HL6 light on it....SWEET!! I'll ask him later for permission to add his pics here. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamaemry305 0 #15 Posted December 13, 2008 Bill, Checked my 1045 today and my serial number is 22036. Gary Raleigh, NC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chevelletown 37 #16 Posted December 14, 2008 Bill, mine are 22759 & 21781 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jusjeepn 59 #17 Posted December 18, 2008 Bill, Mine is 22168 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bell 11 #18 Posted March 10, 2010 Old thread.... bumping it up for new info. 21532 Looks like Brian1045's and mine were built "back to back" That's pretty cool stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #19 Posted March 10, 2010 i never saw this thread the 1st time around, i'll check for a # on mine this wkend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,503 #20 Posted October 12, 2014 October 12, 2014 Bringing this back to the top. 49725 is the highest 1964 serial recorded so far but may not be accurate. It appears they ended 1964 production building model 1054's and started 1965 production building 1054A's and owners possibly don't know which model they have. The 1965 serials continued on from the 1964 serials. The numbers did not start over. 44225 is the highest 1045 serial recorded so far 22987 - Somewhere in this batch of 1045's there must have been a break or two as the numbers span 1482 units - well past the 1100 total units produced. 22929 - Added 22797 22781 22759 22628 - Added 22494 22296 - Added 22168 22144 22141 22036 22018 21896 21872 21819 21818 - Added 21781 21663 21626 21555 - Added 21533 21532 21510 21505 03301 Lowest 1964 serial recorded in this 2nd series of serial numbers that ran for about 46,424 units A-75181 Highest serial recorded in the 1st series of serials that used the left-over decals from 1963. A-50086 Lowest serial that ran for about 25,095 units. 46,424 - 2nd series 25,095 - 1st series 71,519 - Total 1964 units recorded so far. 25,095 - 1st series plus 21,505 - early 1045 46,600 - units built when 1045 production started 46,600 - units built when 1045 production started divided by 71,519 - total 1964 units = 1045 production started approximately 65% of the way through 1964 production. Keep in mind attachment serials are included in these numbers. Although the 1045 is a 1964 model there must have been a fair number in inventory when the 1965 models were released because they included the 1045 in a 1965 manual. Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Callen 64 #21 Posted October 12, 2014 Gary, my 1045 is 22628,my 854 is 45750. the tags are different. the 1045 is a strip on the side of the upright, the 854 is on the top of the shift pattern decal under the dash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse79 271 #22 Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) My 1045 is serial number 21510 and appears in your list. My 854 is serial number is 40927. I was under the impression that the 1045's are early '65 models built in '64 with the '65 style hood. My straight from the horse's mouth book lists the 1045 as a '65 model also. Sorry, I'm not trying to stir up another debate on this subject, but it seems like this issue is still not "settled". Here is my 1045 with a rare RM-425 mower deck. Edited October 12, 2014 by WheelHorse79 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHguy85 0 #23 Posted October 12, 2014 Just checked mine s/n: 22296 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ELECTRORIC 228 #24 Posted October 13, 2014 My 1045 s/n 21818 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geno 1,928 #25 Posted December 25, 2014 Got the serial on my 1045. Serial 21555. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites