Calling all 200 series owners!

[muz123 1,192]

I am interested how many members have a 200 series. post some pictures of them working around the yard or winter work! I hope I'm not the only one! LOL

Heres some pictures of my 212-6 working.

[squonk 42,885]

I'll see If I can dig up some of my 210-h pics. I had an Allis-Chalmers snowblower on it.If I find them I don't know if I can get the pics downloaded onto this new site though.

[Sparky-(Admin) 22,334]

Is that snowblower correct for that tractor? Or was it modded to fit? Its looks huge  on that small tractor.
Mike......

[muz123 1,192]

Yes it is correct Mike. I payed $100 for it. They made blowers for the 200 series for i think 5 or 6 years. i love it.

Is that snowblower correct for that tractor? Or was it modded to fit? Its looks huge  on that small tractor.
Mike......

I'll see If I can dig up some of my 210-h pics. I had an Allis-Chalmers snowblower on it.If I find them I don't know if I can get the pics downloaded onto this new site though.

Would love to see some pictures of your 210-H working! I'm interested how you hooked up your blower. 

[JackC 617]

I have a 252H, a 257H, A 216h, a 211-3 and a few others.  Here is the 257H with a plow.   The 257H feels like something more than a 200 series but not quite a 300 series.  It has the coveted Kawasaki 17 hp engine.  I believe it has the largest rear tires of any 200 series and the same steering wheel as my 1989 520 HC.  The tractor has a little over 100 hours on the meter.  It is in very nice original condition.  It is perhaps the king of the 200 series?



 

[wh500special 2,249]

There's quite a breadth of models with the 200 series and thei offspring.  

When the letter series (A, B, C...) tractors were replaced with the numbered "hundred" series tractors, the new 200 series with the new hood design were largely carried over from the previous B's and vertical shaft Work Horses (e.g. B-165, LT-1137, etc).  The upper end of this range were tiller capable.  I think they were all gear drive.  A special YT-12A was also offered with a Tecumseh and a hydro. 

These were the B-chassis tractors.  

In 1987 a completely new 200-series was introduced.  These are the L-chassis tractors like the 212-6 pictured above and are identified by their "aero" headlamps.  Initially, all were gear drive but eventually around 1990 (when the Toro decal appeared) hydrostatic transaxles were offered.  In 1989 - I think - the hoods on these 200 series were lengthened to allow for a bigger muffler and the eventual Briggs twin powered 216-h.  Occasionally you'll see the suffix "SB" on these, as in the 208-SB.  This meant it came with a standard 30" single bladed mower deck and dinky tires.  These were the Super Baggers (yes, seriously).  

In 1988, the continuation of the B-chassis was reintroduced as the 250-series.  All were hydros with single cylinder a Kawasaki engines.  Either 12.5 or 17 hp.  Great tractors and were marketed as "yard" tractors instead of "lawn" tractors.  Interestingly if you look underneath them, you'll see that while the engine has a vertical shaft, the eaton 7 hydro pump in the rear is a horizontal shaft input.  Classic WH shenanigans with twisting V-belts.  For whatever reason, the max speed on the 250's is quite slow.  

Attachments from the L-chassis 200- Series and the 250's do not interchange.  

In about 1990, the 250's were cancelled and replaced with the 240 series.  These looked the same as the smaller 200's but were longer and had a unique, heavy duty chassis weldments instead of a stamping.  Onan single 14 hp engines and Briggs vanguard v-twin 16's were offered.  Gear or hydro. 244-5, 244-h, and 246-h models.  

The 240's look like 200's, but nothing interchanges between them. 

This tractor was short lived and not particularly common.  They were updated and restyled and reintroduced as the 260 series with new styling   Fully enclosed, stylized hoods that you'll recognize   

The 260's persisted a long time   The top of the line models had a cool electric-hydraulic lift.   Originally the kohler command vertical topped out at 19 hp so the top model wasthe 269-h.  Later kohler gave it another hp and the subsequent top dog 260 series became the 270-h.  Yes, seriously.

The 260's eventually were replaced with the 400-xt series.  260's and 400-xt's could take a tiller.  The 400xt's could accept cSeries implements believe it or not.  260-series attachments are - I'm pretty sure - backward compatible with 240's.

the light duty Toro-WH "xl-series" share nothing with any of these.  The Euro 220-series were improved versions of the old B-chassis and looked like 250's

I'm obviously a fan of these things.

steve

[squonk 42,885]

Muz, It will take some time and digging for pics but what I can tell you that the blower was the common 60's-80's blower that Simplicity/ Allis used. It was for a horizontal shaft engine. I took a heavy plate and made the same holes in it as the 210 snowplow had to mount it. Welded a plate on each side of it with a hole to accept pins to attach the blower and make it pivot up and down. Took a heavy piece of flat stock and made a "Y" with it. Mounted that upside dowm on the blower. One side was a pivot for it and the other side was mounted a flat pulley. The opposite end was drilled a hole to hook a tension spring. The other end of the spring was hooked to the plateon the tractor. Then the belt was just a single twist to go from vertical to horizontal. Worked very well

After the storm of 93 I went to the dealer I bought the tractor from and told them I wanted a blower. They were JD guys and told me even though a blower wasmade for it the tractor wouldn't have enough power to run it. My neighbor had a pile of Allis attachments and no tractor and sold me the blower for $100. Best $100 I've ever spent.

[muz123 1,192]

I have a 252H, a 257H, A 216h, a 211-3 and a few others.  Here is the 257H with a plow.   The 257H feels like something more than a 200 series but not quite a 300 series.  It has the coveted Kawasaki 17 hp engine.  I believe it has the largest rear tires of any 200 series and the same steering wheel as my 1989 520 HC.  The tractor has a little over 100 hours on the meter.  It is in very nice original condition.  It is perhaps the king of the 200 series?



 

i had a 257H until the steering broke. And i couldn't find a deck for it. I have about 7 212's now.Your 257H looks brand new! i guess i wouldn't mind having another one. 
Dave

Edited August 24, 2015 by muz123

[DennisThornton 4,771]

Which of the 200s had 12" wheels?
All 200s had verticals?
Did any have the Uni-Drive 8 spd (3x2)?

[muz123 1,192]

Which of the 200s had 12" wheels?
All 200s had verticals?
Did any have the Uni-Drive 8 spd (3x2)?

They never had a [3x2] tranny.it was only 4,5,6 speed. And no there were no horizontal shafts, just verticals. Also i think the 212-6 had 12inch back wheels. My 212-6 does not have the same back wheels, there smaller and newer. 
Dave

Edited August 24, 2015 by muz123

[dcrage 629]

Always like Steve's (wh500special) history lessons -- Real informative!

[WHX?? 50,922]

My '92 246H, bought it used around 2002 with 500 some odd hours on it for $850. Now has 810 hours on it. Has the 16 HP Briggs Steve mentioned earlier. Very little problems with it other than minor stuff and the PTO clutch. Went thru the deck once. Just put new rubber & semi sealed bearings  on the front and shimmed the spindles/axles. One of my main workers

This bugger has been the only real problem. Bearings where shot in it and it was rusted & siezed on the motor shaft. My own fault ........too much wash water from washing deck. Had to wreck it get it off and replace it to the tune of 283 bucks. It started growling again this year so bearings were going out again. This time it sild right off....thanks Permatex  anti-seize. Ground out the stakes holding the bearings in and with some heat got them out. Two bearings later from fleabay and nice and quiet.

[WHX?? 50,922]

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[squonk 42,885]

I couldn't find any pics with the blower attached. but I did find a pic of the blower separate as well as a pic with the good seat I kept and with both sd and rd decks I had.

[DennisThornton 4,771]

Which of the 200s had 12" wheels?
All 200s had verticals?
Did any have the Uni-Drive 8 spd (3x2)?

They never had a [3x2] tranny.it was only 4,5,6 speed. And no there were no horizontal shafts, just verticals. Also i think the 212-6 had 12inch back wheels. My 212-6 does not have the same back wheels, there smaller and newer. 
Dave

Didn't think WH put any horizontals on a 200 but, I have been wrong many times before.  
Did know of any (3x2) trannies either but, same deal.
However I think several had 12" wheels, but...

[muz123 1,192]

Sweet tractors!

[wh500special 2,249]

I had another couple paragraphs that I somehow truncated, but no matter.   I don't have any pix of anything "working".  I was just trying to clear some of the confusion about the crossovers between the various 200-ish series machines.  



As for 12" rear rims, I think all of the 240's, 250's, and 260's had them.  Not all had lug bolts though, so they're not quite the same as the larger gt's.  

They tended (all of them) to be lawn or yard tractors.  So snow pushing is about as heavy duty as you want to attempt.  Leave the dirt work for the real gt's... Like the V7 and V8's from the 60's.   

Now THOSE were some heavy duty garden tractors

steve

[DennisThornton 4,771]

On 8/24/2015 at 8:12 AM, muz123 said:

They never had a [3x2] tranny.it was only 4,5,6 speed. And no there were no horizontal shafts, just verticals. Also i think the 212-6 had 12inch back wheels. My 212-6 does not have the same back wheels, there smaller and newer. 
Dave

Thanks Dave!  Took me this long to notice your reply!  I was searching for 264 because I just now have one in my truck!  I had been sort of snobbish about not wanting any 200 series but this is not a bad tractor at all!  Lawn tractor that is!