dgjks6 6 #1 Posted November 15, 2008 Sorry if this topic has been beaten to death, but my search skills are off today and I enjoy reading about and looking at the classics, but I have a question. Which tractors manufatured by toro are considered wheels horses by you guys and why. I assume we all agree the 3's, 4's, and 5's made through 1996 are. As are the 300's though the classic gt's of 2007, but what about the xi's, the dxi's, and other models that started to come out in 1998 and on. Greg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
refracman 166 #2 Posted November 15, 2008 I have a 2003 417XT Toro Wheel Horse While I do not consider it a "true" Wheel Horse it does have a lot of Wheel Horse attributes. It has proven itself to be a great worker and a LOT easier and more comfortable to use also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 13 #3 Posted November 15, 2008 Guess I would consider them all a Wheel Horse but maybe break them into Classic design and newer designs. That is up until the MTD mowers came out, no way a red MTD is a Wheel Horse. I did hear Toro has decided to continue the MTD contract. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,560 #4 Posted November 15, 2008 I don't mean to start trouble (But will... )--I would consider all of them Wheel Horses but two distinct models--- The D250 which was a complete cheater tractor.... theres nothing made or designed by Wheel Horse on it except the stickers..... and the New Cheapy McCheap Pants MTD series... Tony---putting on his full kevlar suit and waiting for a herd of D250's to run me down.... :omg: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMESS 24 #5 Posted November 15, 2008 3 dictionary results for: wheel horse Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This wheel horse 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willy victor 0 #6 Posted November 19, 2008 I would say anything with Toro's name on it is not a Wheel Horse. Willy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rustbucket 4 #7 Posted November 19, 2008 well if it says wheel horse its a horse to me but i do know the differance from guarden machines to streight mowers seeing as i have 4 that say wheel horse and are mower only machines and the rest of my herd is guarden machines. mowers are the B-82 B-112 and the 17-44 HXL and the 13-38 XL. and the two newest are not MTD made they where made by toro before toro sold to MTD the rights to the tractor line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gd.pudge 2 #8 Posted November 19, 2008 Its ok my 16 year old daughter still call them all lawn mowers! But the dog does know better. he likes RED Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,345 #9 Posted November 19, 2008 and the two newest are not MTD made they where made by toro before toro sold to MTD the rights to the tractor line. Let's get something straight here. Toro did NOT sell MTD the rights to the tractor line. That's misinformation. Toro CONTRACTED MTD to build their lawn tractor line. It's entirely different thing, though the result is the same. That statement above means MTD can do anything they want, but the truth is Toro owns the rights and has to okay each design. And the statement made earlier that anything with the Toro name not being Wheel Horse is also inaccurate. From the late '80's to the last Classic rolled off the line, the 300/400 and 500 series had the same transmission, the same frame, the same sheet metal, the same hood, the same design as the older Wheel Horses. I may be a little bias here, but they're Wheel Horses in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 19,570 #10 Posted November 19, 2008 And the statement made earlier that anything with the Toro name not being Wheel Horse is also inaccurate. From the late '80's to the last Classic rolled off the line, teh 300/400 and 500 series had the same transmission, the same frame, the same sheet metal, the same hood, the same design as the older Wheel Horses. I may be a little bias here, but they're Wheel Horses in my book. I'm with you Terry . My "95" 416 has TORO and Wheel Horse on the hood decal but she's all horse. Mike.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willy victor 0 #11 Posted November 19, 2008 I don't want a Wheel Horse that says Toro on it, so there. Willy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,345 #12 Posted November 19, 2008 I don't want a Wheel Horse that says Toro on it, so there. Willy Hmm, I guess I'll take them then. BTW, my '98 Toro Wheel Horse is every bit as much as a Wheel Horse as your Work Horse in your avatar. Maybe even more, at least it's red. :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlenPettit 1,714 #13 Posted November 19, 2008 They could be BLUE: Stop by a "New Holland" tractor dealership and look at their 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,345 #14 Posted November 19, 2008 MTD - Machine, Tool, and Die Works. The New Holland garden tractors are pretty awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveG_CT 0 #15 Posted November 19, 2008 MTD - Machine, Tool, and Die Works. Actually I think it's Modern Tool and Die. From MTD's website: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgjks6 6 #16 Posted November 19, 2008 Do they still make them in the same plant in South Bend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 13 #17 Posted November 19, 2008 Greg, You might want to find a copy of the book Straight from the Horses Mouth, The Wheel horse Story. Price is around $40 but a lot of information. Ebay link to the book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcwh1950 2 #19 Posted November 19, 2008 any thing that say wheel horse on it. mtd hq is about 7 mile from my house. may be i sure go take some picture of it for you mtd guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,345 #20 Posted November 19, 2008 any thing that say wheel horse on it. mtd hq is about 7 mile from my house. may be i sure go take some picture of it for you mtd guy :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,121 #21 Posted November 19, 2008 If it's made by Wheel Horse (owned by Pond, AMC or Toro) it's a Wheel Horse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcwh1950 2 #22 Posted November 19, 2008 terry.. maybe i should of said any wheel horse that said wheel horse on it the second part was that i ment that i would go to mtd headquarter and take picture by the track , that they test all of their crap at , and post it for all here to see. my family call it ........ modern tool and died..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod(NASNUT) 1 #23 Posted November 19, 2008 If you like to think it is a Wheel Horse then that is what it is who cares if it is red or gray can't we find something else to about. The same as the about Kohler and Tecumseh I have a Charger 9 with a Tecumseh and it works just a hard as the C- 105 wiht the Kohler. This is a place to come and get info on the tractors we love not to argue about this one is better then that one. Just my 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgjks6 6 #24 Posted November 19, 2008 This does lead me to another question. The work horse (or GT and LT's and wheel horse referred to them - with up to 18hp) were out at the same time as the B's and C's, but they have the sheetmetal of the 300, 400, 500 series. Where did they fit in the line up as far as cost when new and what is the difference between them and the 300's? Greg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,121 #25 Posted November 19, 2008 This is a place to come and get info on the tractors we love not to argue about this one is better then that one. I don't see this as arguing, but more playful banter. The subject is kinda interesting to me to see what others think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites