Ed Kennell 42,108 #1 Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Will a #96 42BC01-166794 snow plow fit on an 875? Would the mower idler pulley need to be removed to clear the plow angle lever? Edited July 17, 2015 by ekennell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,977 #2 Posted July 17, 2015 I don't see why not Ed. I also don't think the idler pulley would be a problem. Over the years I've put blades on various tractors. There's been a couple times I've had to modify the angle lever but it's always been an easy fix. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,291 #3 Posted July 17, 2015 I agree with Bob...that blade is for a "C" series horse, but it has the option for moving the back attach bar to the other hole closer to the blade for your short frame, square hood. It will not interfere with the drive pulley. If anything, you may want to turn that blade position handle around...which the manual probably would talk about. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,108 #4 Posted July 17, 2015 Thanks Guys....for the quick responses. I'm lazy Steve....much easier to ask the pros and experts than to read the manuals. Plus it gives me a reason to say HI. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,291 #5 Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Ed...you are cracking me up. It is 100 degrees heat index here today...and RacinBob is in Florida...so you know he is hiding in the "Man Cave". I think we both just love questions like yours so we can go into manuals and figure things out and not have to go outside today. We are the lazy ones...really. BTW...the only things I am a Pro at...............hiding in the Man Cave, heckling from the back, stirring the pot...I am taking retirement pretty good (but not a pro yet)...and...the thing I am really good at...I can work magic with the TV remote. Edited July 17, 2015 by stevasaurus 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,911 #6 Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) All Steve needs to do now, (CENTS he has all this time on his hands), is to sit in his lawn chair and figure out a way the Bears can make the play offs! He will probably go thru a few dozen chairs before that happens though! . Edited July 17, 2015 by squonk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,108 #8 Posted July 18, 2015 OK.... I tried the dozer blade on the 875 this morning. No go with the stock 875 axle bracket. You can see in the pic, the axle bracket angle irons interfere with the plow A frame rails. It does go on the rear pin holes but the end of the frame rails fit so tight in the angle iron, there is no vertical movement available. And of course the axle bracket will not fit at all in the forward frame hole where I need it for the short frame 875. A couple solutions are ;1. remove the axle bracket spacer bar and position the two brackets inside the frame rails. I may need to notch the bracket angles to clear the oil filter and the gussets on the hydro axles to get the brackets centered enough to fit between the A frame rails.2. I could take the axle bracket off the 314H ...It is made to fit inside the A frame rails.The good news is, like you guys said, the blade angle lever should clear the deck idler pulley OK .I'll probably try option 1 as I have several of these available to alter. OOPS....forgot the pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,108 #9 Posted July 18, 2015 While looking at the pictures, I realized a third option.Cut off the A frame rails right behind the front pin hole and round the corners to allow clearance for vertical movement. This would probably be the easiest solution, but makes the frame usable for short frames only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,977 #10 Posted July 18, 2015 I could be all wet Ed but it looks to me like you have the wrong axle bracket. Years ago the tillers used a different bracket than the blades which is what I think you have. I had the old style tiller that I adapted to use on a 76 C-160 and it had that bracket. I used the snow blade on a different tractor so it wasn't an issue for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,108 #11 Posted July 18, 2015 Yeah, It is definitely the wrong bracket for that plow Bob. It came with the 875. I don't know if there was ever a plow or tiller mounted on the tractor.I was thinking maybe the original 875 plows had the shorter frames that may clear the angles on the bracket. Like I said, I don,t like to read the manuals and instructions ...I'm more of a trial and error guy.Anyway,It's time for Steve to wake up and research this for me. Hi Steve. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,510 #12 Posted July 18, 2015 The 96-42BC01 did not come with that axle bracket that mounts on the front of the axle housing. It mounted on the bottom. I will guess the one you show puts the holes in the A-frame too far to the rear although that may not make a difference.Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,977 #13 Posted July 18, 2015 If you look at the 7-1211 tiller which was for your tractor it shows the bracket I'm referring to and what I believe you have. The blade listed for yours is a 6-4111 which uses the same bracket used throughout the years. It was about 1973 when the tillers were changed a bit so they could use the same bracket as the blade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,291 #14 Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Since I have some older and some newer horses, the problem is that bracket. On the round hoods and short frames the bracket catches the blade on the outside of the angle iron. My B-100 and Raider 10 attach on the inside. Ed, I would try option 2 before I started cutting things. Pull off that other bracket and try that...then you know what you need and can modify one of your other attach brackets. Hiding in the Man Cave again today...heat index is 100 F. Any searching to day will be "for my lost shaker of salt". Edited July 18, 2015 by stevasaurus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,977 #15 Posted July 18, 2015 Good point Steve. I forgot about that. I think that type of frame did use the bracket Ed's got 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,911 #16 Posted July 18, 2015 Hiding in the Man Cave again today...heat index is 100 F. Any searching to day will be "for my lost shaker of salt". Steve, I serviced the heat pump in your room yesterday. Set it for 71 Deg F. Come on down! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,108 #17 Posted July 21, 2015 OK, I made the decision to cut the plow frame and make this plow usable on short and long frame tractors with the either the newer narrow axle bracket that fits inside the frame or the older wide axle bracket that fits outside the frame rails.First I cut off the frame rails 1/4" behind the forward holes. This makes it usable on a short frame tractor with either axle bracket.Now I needed to make a plate to bolt the frame extensions back on for use on the long frame tractors. I plug welded a piece of channel inside the rail extension and bolted this channel to the frame rail. I purposely did not make this longer and heavier as the two pieces of the rail fit together with no clearance and are in compression when plowing. The one 1/2" bolt just keeps the extension in position. I also cut the extension pieces off 1/4 " behind the hole to get the clearance required for the wider outside bracket.The plow is now usable on my short frame 875 and Commando 8 with the older wide axle bracket and on the long frame 314H with the newer narrow axle bracket.Here are just the extension pieces on the 314.....hmm, that looks like the start of a rear hitch also. Gotta keep the eyes open for an old plow frame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites