JeffreyLKY 43 #1 Posted May 25, 2015 Hi guys...not sure exactly where to post this, but if there is anyone who can show me a few photos of how a 1960 Suburban throttle cable should be installed, or how you have it? I don't have any bracketry, and I'm not sure what I am looking for. I am missing the choke cable and lever, but the throttle and cable are present. I appreciate any help anyone can offer. Thank you!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 2,898 #2 Posted May 26, 2015 Jeff, can't help you,but I would also like some photos of a 1960 burbs throttle and choke cable installed. Also a 1961 burbs cables installed. Chris in Florida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,295 #3 Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) In 1960 they used a setup like this. The hood gets sandwiched between the top plate and the gray bracket through the rectangular cutout. The throttle is connected with a typical cable. The choke with a rod. I've got a picture of one connected up someplace but I can't find it. The engine kill was simple pulling the throttle all the way back to ground it out. It was pretty iffy. I'll be using a kill switch. The 61's used push/pull controls. Edited May 27, 2015 by Racinbob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,295 #4 Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) I found it!!!! Edited May 29, 2015 by Racinbob duplicate picture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyLKY 43 #5 Posted May 29, 2015 LOL Racinbob...I appreciate the photos and description. I was actually needing an image of the throttle cable and how it attached to the motor, but was able to locate a complete tractor and see it in person yesterday. Thanks for sharing the simple choke install though...never actually seen one hooked up! Thanks again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian33 4 #6 Posted July 14, 2016 Racinbob do you know where I can find a throttle cable or a part number to go by for the 1960 suburban? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,295 #7 Posted July 14, 2016 The part number is 3648 but I would be amazed if you found one. It's very simple to make one. I had one on the shelf with the black covering and just cut it to length. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,809 #8 Posted July 14, 2016 Yes they are easy to make Brian, I took an old one off a 520 that the end was broke and cut it to length. Maybe this would help 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skeeters65 45 #9 Posted August 17, 2016 On May 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Racinbob said: In 1960 they used a setup like this. The hood gets sandwiched between the top plate and the gray bracket through the rectangular cutout. The throttle is connected with a typical cable. The choke with a rod. I've got a picture of one connected up someplace but I can't find it. The engine kill was simple pulling the throttle all the way back to ground it out. It was pretty iffy. I'll be using a kill switch. The 61's used push/pull controls. Does anyone sell these as an aftermarket piece? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,295 #10 Posted August 17, 2016 I don't think so. I made the levers from flat stock and knobs from Glen Pettit. The plate was pitted bad so I flipped it over and used a decal from Terry. The bottom bracket was just cleaned up and painted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 15,935 #11 Posted August 17, 2016 @rwilson had made some in the past but that was a while ago. Saw him at the show and he still has some material leftover so maybe a PM to him might get a set made. Originals are expensive because there are not too many around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walleye 28 #12 Posted February 6, 2017 I found this thread while searching for info on throttle cables, since I am starting from scratch with no idea. Thought I would share.. I have 2 sources for Suburban throttle reproduction assemblies. There is a guy in central Ohio who makes them - he is actually half an hour from me, but I had already ordered an assembly from the other source - so I do not know of the quality or price. The other guy, in Michigan, charges $90+shipping. The majority of the assembly is stainless steel, and he will engrave your serial number on the plate. I did not know my original serial number, so I went with my nephew's birthdate since I am building my Suburban for him. If anyone is ever interested in these, PM me for contact info. I did not ask either guy about sharing or passing their info on, so I will not post it publicly. How long of a piece of throttle cable do I need for my K91 throttle cable? Any suggestions on the choke rod? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walleye 28 #13 Posted February 19, 2017 Can anyone post more pictures of their suburban throttle and choke cables? Any pictures or details about the cables that you can share would be appreciated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,769 #14 Posted February 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, Walleye said: Can anyone post more pictures of their suburban throttle and choke cables? Any pictures or details about the cables that you can share would be appreciated! Post #4 of this thread should do the trick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 10,295 #15 Posted February 19, 2017 Here's a shot of mine. The choke is connected with a rod. You pull back on the lever to choke it. That seems somewhat backwards to me but that's how it was done. The throttle cable is looped to come up to the linkage on the governor. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walleye 28 #16 Posted February 19, 2017 Thank you @Racinbob. I was actually curious more about the right side and how you have the throttle cable looped. Is there anything that holds the sleeve of the throttle cable fixed in place to the engine? I assume the sleeve is .25" OD, with a single strand throttle cable? I tried to use a cable but it was a smaller OD and slides in my throttle assembly, but also seems to move too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walleye 28 #18 Posted February 19, 2017 Thank you! I knew I had it wrong. My engine doesn't appear to have that throttle bracket so I was trying to connect my throttle cable direct to the throttle shaft on the carb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 15,935 #19 Posted February 19, 2017 The bracket is pretty simple design to make one. OR, You can make a simple L bracket attached to the engine mounting bolt and the attach the conduit to that. It needs to be secured on both ends so the cable inside will slide through it, otherwise the whole thing moves and doesn't do what it's supposed to. You want it connected to the governor system so the engine adjusts RPM to load conditions and doesn't over rev. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walleye 28 #20 Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Thanks Wallfish! I found that bracket in the basket of K90 parts that came with the tractor. I got it installed but I'm still having a little difficulty with this. No matter how I set the speed control disc or where my throttle cable connects to it, I get a max of 3/4" between idle and full throttle. However, the throttle lever assembly has close to 1.5" of movement between idle and full, so when they are connected, when the engine would be at wide open, the throttle assembly is only 1/2 throttle. I'm hoping to find someone local who has a Suburban so that I can go look it over. Edited February 26, 2017 by Walleye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 15,935 #21 Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) There is probably enough rotation on that disc to add enough tension to the governor spring for the engine to run at full throttle even though the lever itself doesn't travel the maximum it's designed to go. That engine is not a Wheel Horse spec engine so some minor parts are different like the speed control disc. To get better throttle control of the engine speed and have the full motion on the lever, the cable needs to be connected on the disc farther away from the center. WH spec'd engines had a small arm on the disc which accomplished this. Kind of like the one pictured below taken from an ad on ebay. The Z bend of the cable would connect to the arm, the farther from center it is, the more the cable has to move to accomplish the same amount of rotation. Make sense? BUT if you just want the throttle to move the full distance, this can also be accomplished by moving the attachment point for the cable at the lever, CLOSER to the pivot point. Or, weld a small tab with holes on your disc Or buy the one on ebay Just throwing out some options for you to consider. Edited February 26, 2017 by wallfish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walleye 28 #22 Posted February 28, 2017 Wallfish, thank you!!! I did a little calculus (who am I kidding, I don't remember calculus) but that speed disc is exactly what I need. I measured mine, scaled it to the pictures of the one in the ebay listing, and that tab extends the radius of the throttle cable hole roughly .85" out to 1.45", which would give me an arc length of 1.75" at 68.75° (the angle from the drive pin to a tab on my wheel). Think I'll buy one for the K91 I'm keeping, and make the 2nd for the K90 that I'm selling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites