jsp_333 280 #26 Posted May 6, 2015 3/4 bar measure 9 3/4" from the end to the inside of arm its welded to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsp_333 280 #27 Posted May 7, 2015 Was actually able to use the tiller last night. After getting a 2 1/4" idler and flipping the spacer to the inside of the larger pulley to move it and the belt in line with the pto the tiller functioned. Going to have to try the Gates 6686 BR 1/2 x 141 3/8 if I haven't worn out my welcome at Motion Canada. This whole belt length thing is a real mystery. Especially since I haven't been able to find anyone who can measure a belt with a device instead of running a tape measure around the outside of it. A public thank you to Rich (312Hydro) for keeping me going. Next will be getting the correct mid mount pulley so the tension arm is free to operate as designed. How I got this thing working last year with the set up I had is beyond me. The saga continues... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,053 #28 Posted May 7, 2015 Just out of curiosity, as I havent read all of this thoroughly, do you have a picture from under the tractor where the bar clips into the attachmatic? Could it have possibly clipped in wrong, which caused it to be too far shifted inboard? (And would also explain how you got it to work previously) Heres a picture I found of a similar setup. It seems as though the lever the spring attaches to should clear the PTO hoop bracket: If this has already been addressed, just ignore me! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312Hydro 474 #29 Posted May 7, 2015 I think Brandon has a good point. Shouldn't both of the locating bushings be inside the attachamatic when you look under the tractor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsp_333 280 #30 Posted May 7, 2015 Ya Brandon's right. Just went out to the garage to have a look and sure enough the locating bushings weren't in properly. I think the problem was my technique. I was crouching down to put in the mid mount idler and trying to do it by feel. Now I got under the tractor got the two locator bushings in proper place. Got it to stay long enough to get a small sledge and was able to easily tap it into place and lock the attch-a-matic. I always thought that was how it should go but it didn't fit easily, hence the sledge, and the spot welds seemed to be in the way. Will re adjust the pulley and idler tomorrow. Gotta go to Karate. John 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312Hydro 474 #31 Posted May 8, 2015 Well,at least the smaller pulley put more separation in the belt. Glad You won't need another idler setup. Thanks to Brandon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,053 #32 Posted May 8, 2015 Glad to know it worked out for you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,053 #33 Posted May 8, 2015 Oh and thanks for all the great and very detailed pictures, this thread will surely be helpful for people in the future! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsp_333 280 #34 Posted May 12, 2015 Have tried unsuccessfully now to upload videos 3 times of the difference between the Gates 6686 BR 1/2 x 141 3/8 and Gates 6652 BR 1/2 x 139 5/8 on my tractor. The short answer is that 6686 work for me - had play in both the idler arm and plenty of slack in the belt itself. Worked like it was designed to. Obviously couldn't have done this without the Wheel Horse Community. You may regret it, because now, I have to get to getting the rj35 up and running. Cheers, John 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmsgaffer 2,053 #35 Posted May 12, 2015 Best way for videos in the future is to upload it to youtube. If you dont want it to show up on youtube searches you can upload it as "unlisted", just not "private". Then just copy and paste the link here and it will (most of the time) automatically insert! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsp_333 280 #36 Posted May 14, 2015 OK finally figured out youtube. the videos are here for those that are interested Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312Hydro 474 #37 Posted May 15, 2015 I watched both vids and the second with the 6652br appears to have good separation and tension. The other belt looks to loose to me but you are the one tilling so it's whatever works best for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
