kenbone8383 0 #1 Posted November 4, 2008 I have a 1964' 1054 wheel horse. What type of gas and oil should I use with it? Well rather not what type but what octane for gas? And for the oil i belive its a 4 cycle? Thanks, Ken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 14 #2 Posted November 4, 2008 I run all my Kohlers, including my K-241S on my 1054A, on 87 octane gas. Kohler recommends NOT using premium fuels. If you experience pinging, or predetonation then you may need to go up in octane, but make sure it's tuned well first. The pinging may be a timing issue or carbon build up in the combustion chamber. As for which oil, that is a touchy subject as you will quickly learn if you follow the square. I use Mobil One straight 30 weight in most of mine. Kohler recommends against using multi-viscosity oils and calls for 10 weight in colder temps. It is very rare for one of mine to run in temps below 32 degrees, so I usually don't need the thinner oil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy da Bear 11 #3 Posted November 4, 2008 SAE 30 wt. for me too.... Usually Quaker State. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlenPettit 1,717 #4 Posted November 5, 2008 Premium gasoline is usually above 91 octane. Page 5 of the Kohler Service Manual for K-series (10 hp, K-241) recommends "octane rating of 87 or higher". Because these engines usually run nearly wide-open, I was told to always use fresh 89 octane. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jusjeepn 59 #5 Posted November 5, 2008 Castrol sae 30 is my flavor of choice. My horses will all work/play this winter but they are in a heated garage so viscosity doesn't bother me much! :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bambooheels 0 #6 Posted November 5, 2008 straight 30 weight here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluetuna08 0 #7 Posted November 5, 2008 older engines 50's and 60's may not have had hardend valve seats which would require a lead additive to lubricate the vlave seats. I would check it out to see if those old engines have hardend vlave seats. my 1970 electro has them which means kohler was probably ahead of that curve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #8 Posted November 5, 2008 SAE 30 and 87 octane for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,013 #9 Posted November 5, 2008 I use the same oil as Roush Racing Uses. and 87 octane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canam1991 2 #10 Posted November 5, 2008 it all depends on where you live -20-32 degrees 5w-30, 33-45 degrees 10w-30-10w-40 if you live anywhere it snows you will want 5w-30 if you use heavy oil like staight 30 your motor will be locked up in the cold from frozen solid oil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenbone8383 0 #11 Posted November 5, 2008 well i live in wilmington, ma and I'm going to be using it mostly in the winter for plowing. temerature in the winter i guess you could say between 20-35 degrees. so 5w-30 oil will do the trick for the winter and 10w-30 for the warmer months? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #12 Posted November 6, 2008 well i live in wilmington, ma and I'm going to be using it mostly in the winter for plowing. temerature in the winter i guess you could say between 20-35 degrees. so 5w-30 oil will do the trick for the winter and 10w-30 for the warmer months? Yep. I'm just up the road a piece from you in NH and that's the combo I'll be running! Duff :hide: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #13 Posted October 3, 2013 I've done ALOT of studying about this subject. I have made the choice to run Kohler 30 wt oil in my 753. Kohler oils are formulated for small engines so they have all the lubricants in it that flat tappet engines like. Most automotive oils have had the lubricants taken out do to emissions regulations and the cat converters on cars. In the winter I'll switch to 10-30. As for gas I run 87. This is just my opinion based on my studying though! Not the gospel:) I'm not saying anyone is wrong. Hope this helps and welcome to red square:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,079 #14 Posted October 3, 2013 And for everyone out there, do a search on the web for ethanol-free gas availability in your area. I have started to run e-free gas in all my small engines. Just had to replace the tanks and fuel lines on my leaf blowers this year due to damage to the lines and tank grommets caused by ethanol in the gas. I'm hoping that is all that is wrong. A big "thank you" goes out to our useless EPA. Can't wait for them to start demanding the use of e-15 in the near future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slammer302 2,156 #15 Posted October 3, 2013 I love ethanol banghead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zanepetty 117 #16 Posted October 3, 2013 Useless is an understatement. BLOWS my mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites