Dhodge 528 #1 Posted March 31, 2015 I don't know why but I cant find the master serial number list to identify one of my horses. Can someone help an idiot out here please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 40,983 #2 Posted March 31, 2015 Go to manuals Click on misc. Scroll down to wheel horse by years 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,082 #3 Posted March 31, 2015 Is the list you are looking for ID numbers or serial numbers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhodge 528 #4 Posted March 31, 2015 Thank You ekennell. Denny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhodge 528 #5 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Nope that's not the list I am looking for. There is a list that gives you the starting and ending serial number for each year and model. I just cant find it. IE serial number 62-78234, which I believe to be a 1962 702, however it could be a 1962 552. Is the list you are looking for ID numbers or serial numbers? serial numbers rmaynard Edited March 31, 2015 by Dhodge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,328 #6 Posted March 31, 2015 The highest 552 serial I have recorded is 62-20026 The highest 702 serial I have recorded is 62-20692 The highest 1962 serial I have recorded is 62-21125 The highest 1963 serial in that series is 62-25718 Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhodge 528 #7 Posted March 31, 2015 Any guesses on what I have going on with those numbers? Tag looks original Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,142 #8 Posted March 31, 2015 Garry. I have been curious about this for a long time. I have a 702 serial # 62-4216. I had a 502 serial # 62-18107. I am looking for a discussion here...in 1962 you also had the 552...I am not sure if the 32E and 32R are a part of this back and forth. It has always put up a flag when I see someone on here post a 62- serial number and call it a 1963. At this point I would think Dhodge is not seeing the serial numbers correctly...Ie...maybe the 62-78234 is really like 62-23234...I don't know...numbers get dirty and worn out. My real question here...is there a separation in serial numbers...say in 1962 only...where you can tell if it is a 702, or a 502, or a 552...or did they just put the next serial number on the horse that came off the line and it did not matter if it was a 702 or a 502...the next horse got the next number??? I am thinking they may be all mixed up, or maybe they alternated with in a hundred pair group. Just asking. The other question...why do 1963 horses sometimes have a 62-serial number??? I am thinking it should be 63-XXXXXX. Thanks mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhodge 528 #9 Posted March 31, 2015 OK the seven is a 1. Piece of dirt and old eyes I guess. 62-18234. I have another one that is a 62-8627 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,328 #10 Posted March 31, 2015 OK the seven is a 1. Piece of dirt and old eyes I guess. 62-18234. I have another one that is a 62-8627 Batch 6 of 16 batches of 702 models recorded so far First is serial 62-7566 in this batch Another serial 62-8618 Your serial is 62-8627 Next serial is 62-8654 Last is serial 62-8666 in this batch - That is a span of 1,100 units in batch 16 so far - Hard to believe Model 502 serial 62-18107 belongs to Stevasaurus Your 2nd serial is 62-18234 Model 552 serial 62-188xx is next so this doesn't help much. Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse79 271 #11 Posted April 1, 2015 I bought a tank stand off of a '63 753 to replace my cut-up tank stand on my 854. It too had a 62-XXXX serial number. My guess is that Wheel Horse didn't want to waste anything, so they kept using the 62-XXXX prefix serial numbers for '63. I don't know if all '63's used the prefix, but I'm guessing they did. Then, in '64, Wheel Horse used a completely different numbering system. My 854 is serial # 40927. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,328 #12 Posted April 1, 2015 Garry. I have been curious about this for a long time. I have a 702 serial # 62-4216. I had a 502 serial # 62-18107. I am looking for a discussion here...in 1962 you also had the 552...I am not sure if the 32E and 32R are a part of this back and forth. It has always put up a flag when I see someone on here post a 62- serial number and call it a 1963. At this point I would think Dhodge is not seeing the serial numbers correctly...Ie...maybe the 62-78234 is really like 62-23234...I don't know...numbers get dirty and worn out. My real question here...is there a separation in serial numbers...say in 1962 only...where you can tell if it is a 702, or a 502, or a 552...or did they just put the next serial number on the horse that came off the line and it did not matter if it was a 702 or a 502...the next horse got the next number??? I am thinking they may be all mixed up, or maybe they alternated with in a hundred pair group. Just asking. The other question...why do 1963 horses sometimes have a 62-serial number??? I am thinking it should be 63-XXXXXX. Thanks mate. In 1962 they introduced the 62-xxxx serial numbers for tractors and A-xxxx serial numbers for attachments. In 1963 they continued with the 62-xxxx serials for the first batch of 953 tractors (62-137 to 62-928) Keep in mind this would have happened in 1962 for the 1963 model year. The next tractor serials are 62-20610 to 62-25718. Next is tractor serial 26210 without the 62- prefix so it looks as though they disregarded the 62- prefix in 1963 model year to use up the decals. The A-xxxx serials continued on the 1963 attachments. The last 1963 model year tractor serial is 47957. In 1964 the only old decals they had left were the A-xxxx so they ended up on tractors and attachments. (A-50086 to A-75181) This again would have started in 1963 for the 1964 model year. Then the serials run 3301 to 49725 - last 1964 serial recorded. I suspect when they had enough parts to build a particular model they assigned a serial to each unit - tractor or attachment and everything went to the assembly line. The next eligible model of tractor or attachment got the next batch of serials. After the 62-xxxx and A-xxxx serial decals were exhausted the serial numbers are consecutive so numerically the batches of tractors and batches of attachments are mixed. Later on they added a build date to the vin plates. When you see these batches it is evident the date used is the date they assigned the serial numbers to the batch - not the actual build date. When you check the dates it often happened on the same day of each week so must have been part of a routine. It was even done on Saturdays and Sundays which is likely an indication of how busy they were. Not uncommon to see batches of tractor models and batches of attachments with the same build date. Many of the Julian build dates are wrong. Say in 1975 they were scheduling 1976 models for production but they used a 1976 build date. When the 1976 calendar arrived they started using the correct Julian date. This happened more than one year. It has been said the company fiscal year ended in October so that coincides with the following model year product being released in October of the previous year like they do with autos today. Garry 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,142 #13 Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks Garry...that helps a ton to understand how things worked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WheelHorse79 271 #14 Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the info. I find this so fascinating. Looks like my 854 was built toward the end of the model year. Edited April 1, 2015 by WheelHorse79 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhodge 528 #15 Posted April 2, 2015 Thank You Gary. Much appreciated. Denny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildside 195 #16 Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) I'm sortry guys but I'm really confused, I just bought one Serial No. 62-7148, thouhjt it might be a 704, now I aint sure. ( HELP). Please. Edited July 4, 2016 by Wildside had to add the 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,328 #17 Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Wildside said: I'm sortry guys but I'm really confused, I just bought one Serial No. 62-7148, thouhjt it might be a 704, now I aint sure. ( HELP). Please. Could it be a 702? A 1963 model with a 62-xxxxx serial should have 62- plus 5 digits. Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,705 #18 Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Wildside said: I'm sortry guys but I'm really confused, I just bought one Serial No. 62-7148, thouhjt it might be a 704, now I aint sure. ( HELP). Please. You should just start a new thread of your own and if you include lots of pictures of your tractor from different angles, it can probably be identified much quicker than using a serial # 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indiana_Steve 125 #19 Posted July 5, 2016 Is there a source that tells us how many tractors were produced of a certain model? In my case, a 953? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildside 195 #20 Posted July 5, 2016 I thought 702 Gary, here's couple Photos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,328 #21 Posted July 5, 2016 6 hours ago, Indiana_Steve said: Is there a source that tells us how many tractors were produced of a certain model? In my case, a 953? No there is not. Serials have never been published but a few Special models in the later years had the production numbers advertised. That is why I record any serials that show up to see what can be learned from them. Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indiana_Steve 125 #22 Posted July 5, 2016 Garry... you can add my 953 S/N 41969. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,328 #23 Posted July 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, Indiana_Steve said: Garry... you can add my 953 S/N 41969. Thank you Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
