Good Ethanol Info/facts

[GlenPettit 1,717]

http://www.fuel-test...thanol_gas.html

[RMCIII 838]

And we wonder why we have issues with our small engines..... Just 1 more reason for me to keep buring the"good" stuff. Cost $7.59/gal. But it does not have that crap in it... Plus it sure smells sweet when it burns!  

 

Rob

[Geno 1,929]

That's not the half of it.  Here's a few I show my customers all the time that insist on buying Shell or Kroger gas around here that is 15%.  One article covers the manufacturers saying it will wreck engines and the other is the refiners saying the same.  There are hundreds of articles like this out there.  

 

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-29/oil-refiners-say-higher-ethanol-blends-may-damage-engines.html

 

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/05/e15-alcohol-wreck-engines-tests-dispute-epa-growth-energy/1#.VGQBoskl-Zp

[rmaynard 16,381]

While e-10 gasoline here in my area is down to $2.69/gal, I just took four 5 gallon cans and two 2.5 gallon cans to my closest e-free gas station (60 mile round trip), and paid $4.39/gal. 

[Save Old Iron 1,571]

And we wonder why we have issues with our small engines..... Just 1 more reason for me to keep buring the"good" stuff. Cost $7.59/gal. But it does not have that crap in it...

 

Just ironic how many folks have problems using that "crap" in their small engines and how few people have no problem what so ever processing that same crap (alcohol) thru their small intestines. Go figure.

[Lagersolut 743]

While e-10 gasoline here in my area is down to $2.69/gal, I just took four 5 gallon cans and two 2.5 gallon cans to my closest e-free gas station (60 mile round trip), and paid $4.39/gal. 

 

I just took my trip 2 weeks ago with my 3 5 gallon cans - paid  $3.43/ gallon  - there's an Ameri fuel on RT 30 at Sherman st in  York who offers both E and non and Hakes grocery at Bull and Canal that's all non E .

[Molon_Labe 731]

Good info Glen, thanks. For those of us in Indiana, CountryMark Coop 91 Plus is available and is certified ethanol free.

[Forest Road 594]

I'm lucky to have a place 5 minutes away with E-free 91 oct. Typically runs $1 more gallon than the gas station.

I continue to be puzzled by people who spend $10+ on fuel stabilizer. All this to save 1-2 gallons of gas. Then they're bitching when their machines won't start in 6 months.

[dcrage 630]

I have no opinion on the "how bad gasoline is these days" conversation. BUT that article did not do anything to convince me. "100s of ingredients" in gasoline??? Sure distilled crude oil is a complex mixture of hydrocarbons but that is a single ingredient.

My reading of this article struck me as a sales pitch disguised with a little bit of chemistry.

Edited November 13, 2014 by dcrage

[GlenPettit 1,717]

Here's a source list of Ethanol-Free Gas Stations:

 

http://pure-gas.org/

 

List is not complete, just the larger Gas Stations.  Here in Michigan, most all Marinas 

along the Great Lakes sell 'regular gas' for the larger boats, but legally will only pump

it into the actual boat gas tanks, not portable gas cans.  Some small airports have 

regular gas too, but it usually costs $1-2 more.

[JC 1965 1,532]

Thank you Glen, for taking the time to post this info. I have read several articles about Ethanol gas but none that were this informative.     

 

 

 

Thanks Geno, for the info. you posted also.   Much appreciated !!       

[boovuc 1,090]

Thanks for posting this Glen.

 

For Dave, I understand your skepticism but the link below will take you to an MSDS for regular unleaded gasoline. You will see that there are a lot of long and short-chain hydrocarbons along with other solvents that are present and leftover from the refining process. Keep in mind that manufacturers of any OSHA, DOT or EPA hazardous material must list ingredients or residual components if they meet or exceed 1% and or they must list any cancer causing or suspected cancer causing chemicals or residuals at or above 0.1%. (Plus all the possible Marine Pollutants and or all soluble metals that meet certain thresholds that require reporting to EPA yearly).

 

You'll see that under the composition, the manufacturer lists components as a minimum to a maximum of possible content by percent. This includes Toluene, Ethyl Benzene, pure Benzene, Hexane, Xylene, Napthylene, etc plus all the long and short hydrocarbon chains. If you shot a sample of gasoline into a mass-spec GC, you would see literally hundreds of "other chemicals" that are not required to be disclosed on that MSDS but are in concentrations that are not reportable.

Gasoline regardless of ethanol is a mixture. Even aviation gasolines. It is anything but pure. (I try not to remember all the times I had my hands covered in this crap)!

 

 

https://www.marathonpetroleum.com/brand/content/documents/mpc/sds/0127MAR019.pdf

[Hodge71 690]

I only burn non ethanol in my machines. I have a station 5 miles from the house....$3.79/Gallon currently. I add my Archoil to it and I have some seriously happy small engines 

 

http://www.archoil.com

Edited November 14, 2014 by Hodge71

[Don1977 605]

From what I have read on the subject of ethanol is it's just another government scam. They require 10% in gas but there isn't enough produced and they fine the gas company for not putting it in. Then the gas company passes that cost along to the the consumer. That may be why some people have problems with ethanol and others don't.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Don1977

[gregg'shorses 77]

Very Interesting........http://opei.org/ethanolwarning/consumers/?utm_source=Homelite&utm_campaign=b903085044-Homelite_Ethanol6_27_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b0b29db93e-b903085044-26794733

[cstempert 27]

From what I have read on the subject of ethanol is it's just another government scam. They require 10% in gas but there isn't enough produced and they fine the gas company for not putting it in. Then the gas company passes that cost along to the the consumer. That may be why some people have problems with ethanol and others don't.

Don't forget we ( our government ) also subsidizes the farmers growing the ethanol producing veggies

All under the guise of "reducing emissions". I just don't see how watering down a fuel will reduce the emissions it produces

It's the same principle they used in the 80's on cars - pump more air into the exhaust to "reduce the emissions" when all you did was add more air to the exhaust to reduce the PPM of HC per pound of air