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stevasaurus

This is excellent and about time...this needs to be pinned..:)

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squonk

I found a chart somewhwere and printed it out a couple of years ago. Hung it in my shop. Came in real handy on My 73 with 2 different size keys on the rear axles! :thumbs:

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stevasaurus

Thanks Jason, can't tell you how many times I have tried to figure out what is going on in this chart..  this will save us a lot of time.  :)

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Tankman

Nice chart, I'm savin' a copy.

 

What size are the keys on a 1-1/8" axle? I can find the T part number but, no size listing.

 

I hate the big T for listing only part numbers, would be nice if sizes were listed; i.e.: bolt, nut, etc. Ugh!  :angry-nono:

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ranger

Mine are 1-3/8" x 1/4" : # 22 I think :) ,can't seem to be able to find them over here though,will have to make some. :banghead:

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Tankman

Thanks Ranger!

 

Such a cute doggie! Is he available?   :laughing-rofl:

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ranger

Thanks Ranger!

 

Such a cute doggie! Is he available?   :laughing-rofl:

He's a she :)

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gwest_ca
On 1/2/2015 at 5:04 PM, Tankman said:

Nice chart, I'm savin' a copy.

 

What size are the keys on a 1-1/8" axle? I can find the T part number but, no size listing.

 

I hate the big T for listing only part numbers, would be nice if sizes were listed; i.e.: bolt, nut, etc. Ugh!  :angry-nono:

Not real pretty but is a start - Wheel Horse part number to Woodruff key

Garry

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bamaboyz71

I lost mine so I went to TSP and got some but had to grind 'em down....I would like to know what size goes in the pully shaft that comes out of the trans? 1960 suburban.

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gwest_ca

Wheel Horse key # 1122 is a No. 9 Woodruff key - 3/16" x 3/4"

 

Garry

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Wheelhorse#1
Posted (edited)

Thanks for the timely info !

I have a worn rear hub keyway on my ole 71 800.

Have to get another one,as o see no way to fix it .Wile I’m at it I’ll add another set screw to the other  side.

 

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gwest_ca

937022 Woodruff #15 keys - 1/4" x 1"

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ranger

Whatever you do, don’t add another set screw 180 degrees from the existing one. Fit one at 90 degrees instead. If you fit two at 180 the potential is for the hub to ‘Rock’ on the points of said set screws and become loose on the axle quite quickly. Two fitted at 90 degrees will push the axle tightly against the bore of the hub.

 

Doug.

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Jeff-C175
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It also appeats that someone put a hex head bolt in ther at some point indicating that there was a pre-existing condition.

 

Do not use bolts, or re-use set screws!  As Ranger has said, the second set screw needs to be 90 degrees around, not opposite.  Buy NEW set screws!

 

Also, it's highly likely that the axle shaft is boogered up too.  Loctite makes a product for repairing shafts called 660.  I used it on my 175 with the same problem as yours and it's still holding tight after more than five years.  I did install a new hub though which is what I would do if I were you.

 

Since you've got the hubs off, install new axle seals as well.

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Wheelhorse#1
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On 5/29/2021 at 7:15 PM, Jeff-C175 said:

It also appeats that someone put a hex head bolt in ther at some point indicating that there was a pre-existing condition.

 

Do not use bolts, or re-use set screws!  As Ranger has said, the second set screw needs to be 90 degrees around, not opposite.  Buy NEW set screws!

 

Also, it's highly likely that the axle shaft is boogered up too.  Loctite makes a product for repairing shafts called 660.  I used it on my 175 with the same problem as yours and it's still holding tight after more than five years.  I did install a new hub though which is what I would do if I were you.

 

Since you've got the hubs off, install new axle seals as well.


Thanks for all the advice.The bolts were already there and I assumed that’s how it was originally.I did think it was strange though because it made it difficult to reach and one bolt was longer.

 

I’ll replace with set screw , another  at 90 degrees  
The keyway looks good as well as the shaft doesn’t appear bent or anything on either side.

 

Part manual called for these to be used .3/8 -16x1 sq hd in hub

 

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Jeff-C175
5 hours ago, Wheelhorse#1 said:

manual called for these

 

One more thing I just thought of...  

 

Those set screws should be torqued to 30 ft lb and you will NOT get them tight enough with an open end wrench.  You'll need an 8 point socket.

 

I'm convinced that most of the damaged hubs are caused by not properly tightening the set screws.

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Wheelhorse#1

Having a hard time finding the screws.Checked all the local hardware box stores.Online only offers in bulk and expensive.Maybe tractor supply?  

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Jeff-C175
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25 minutes ago, Wheelhorse#1 said:

a hard time finding the screws

 

When all else fails, or even before then, McMaster Carr !  :text-yeahthat::text-+1:

 

Don't forget the 'stop bolts' or 'jam nuts' (whatever you want to call them), but you should be able to find those anywhere.

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Wheelhorse#1

Great ,Thank you sir’s !

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WHX??
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@Wheelhorse#1 I can fix those hubs , PM me if interested. I have been doing them for about forty bucks shipped and that includes set screws and jam nuns. 

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Wheelhorse#1

Thanks for the offer. However I was able to find a used hub in good shape for 40 bucks shipped . AZ tractor...good folks over there .

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