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wheelhorse101

i have a kwick way loader on my c-81 tractor (ya i no its a little small but it works great) but my question is there a way to get more hydraulic power out of it for example a little more power for the curl of the bucket and lift if possible?

thanks dan

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kj4kicks

If you're running at or near full throttle, your pump may be getting weak/worn. If the pump is spinning at the correct rpm's, it doesn't really matter what the HP is.

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wheelhorse101

thanks kj well its the same at any rpm i was just woundering if there is a wat to make it any stronger?

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Nick

Dan, If its not the pump have you ever adjusted the relief pressure on the valve? I had one that would barely move itself until I adjusted the valve.

Forgot to add that my loader only has 8hp with a Kwik-way pump and it does ok. :banghead:

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wheelhorse101

Dan, If its not the pump have you ever adjusted the relief pressure on the valve? I had one that would barely move itself until I adjusted the valve.

Forgot to add that my loader only has 8hp with a Kwik-way pump and it does ok. :banghead:

yaa it does work greay with the 8 hp but how do i adjust the valve ? and were is it?

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Nick

To adjust the relief pull off the steel cap on the back of the valve and turn the screw thats under it. If I remember right turning it in was higher pressure. Turn it very little then try it out, dont want to get carried away. :banghead:

This was the best picture I could find tonight. The cap is next to the handles.

parts004.jpg

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cham-ed

I have a couple of questions before I offer some advice. Is the loader slow to operate? Or is the loader too weak (can't lift a reasonable load)? I have worked on truck hydraulic systems for years and many people get confused by them. If the loader works at normal speeds when not under a load, but will not lift a reasonable load, then consider the possibility of low pressure. If the system just runs slowly when under load but eventually lifts the load you have a different problem (probably worn pump).

First DO NOT adjust the relief valve without using a pressure gauge. Then never exceed the manufacturer's recommended pressure. If you exceed the pressure rating - you can cause some kind of damage - maybe blown seals - maybe damaged hydraulic cylinders - etc....

Second a worn pump is detected by a flow meter. If the engine is running at the proper rpms, the pumps should put out X gallons per minute.

Hydraulics are difficult to figure out without the proper gauges. I can't tell you how many times people have tried to fix a worn pump by adjusting the pressure setting. it doesn't work. And if you push the setting too far - more problems. You need to either get gauges or go to someone with them. You'll be better off in the long run.

Cham-Ed

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Nick

Another problem Ive heard can be dirt in the relief valve that needs to be cleaned. But I assume that would show up as slowed working speeds along with reduced power.

The KW loaders were factory rated at something like 300 pounds lifting capacity and 250 transport. While some of us exceed these amounts :banghead: it doesnt hurt to keep them in mind when considering realistic limits of use for the tractor and loader.

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traktorkidd7/30/93

Hey dan you fix that hood yet??? :banghead:

You should add pictures of that :USA:

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KyBlue

Hey Nick... Can you post or PM me a link to your FEL build photos .. I had it saved @ one point.. but no longer.

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