pacer 3,177 #1 Posted March 24, 2014 On my latest project, a C-175 auto, the hoses down to the cylinder had pretty bad leaks at the swivels at the cyl. From researching this it seems this is all to common a problem with these hoses, and, they are apparently like hens teeth to find or even get made up. My local hyd shop can only match the fittings with larger ones which wont fit into the already cramped locations. These cramped quarters is what I wanted to vent a bit about -- most of us have ran into situations where it seems the engineers had a contest to see how hard they could make servicing a part could be, this was one of them Heres the hoses I needed to get off and replace... No big deal, huh? Obviousy going to have to get the up/down valve out of the dash tower to loosen lines at the back, OK, get it loose but not enough room to get to the back of it, need to disconnect the line back to the filter housing - ouch! have to remove seat and pan, gas tank, and filter, then have to snake the line back out to get slack in it --- Uh-oh, now the line to the pump wont let me get enough room! Get it loose and it does NOT want to give me ANY slack, finally gain about 6-8 inches, enough to get to the two lines, but hey at this point I'd like to take the whole thing out and clean up and inspect everything -- well, that 6-8 inches slack I got on the pump line was all I was gonna get out of that thing! they must have built the tractor around it. I'm 1-1/2-2hrs into this thing by now and from what I can determine the two cyl hose are all thats needed so I stop at that point. Jeez, its just a couple simple hyd hoses for petes sake!! Luckily, I had spotted used lines off a C-165 that Joes has, so jumped on them - hope that swivel is good on em.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesBe1 84 #2 Posted March 24, 2014 I went though the same thing last year. Running the hoses is tough. There are several threads around here about replacing them. Hoses & adapters are available on the web in various places. I learned a lot about the different types of connectors & hoses. Wheel horse used some strange fittings in places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,639 #3 Posted March 24, 2014 Discount hydraulic has all the fittings you need. http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/ The odd ones are SAE #5 ORB. Most local hose shops do not have them mine included. i get the fittings from Discount, my local guy crimps them on for coffee and a donut..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdmitchjr@6dlam.com 5 #4 Posted March 24, 2014 surplus center has a pretty good selection of adapter fittings. Not always great to add another connection, but it may save on hose cost a bit. B/R John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,177 #5 Posted March 24, 2014 Not having a clue on the terminology for fittings, etc and trying to piece together a pair I was hoping to find a used set that I could somewhat feel they would be good - and less expensive! And, as so often the case Joes Outdoor Power was offering a couple pair for $25 and his usual free shipping, and having only ever gotten really nice stuff from them I didnt hesitate to order them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,639 #6 Posted March 24, 2014 Not having a clue on the terminology for fittings, etc and trying to piece together a pair I was hoping to find a used set that I could somewhat feel they would be good - and less expensive! And, as so often the case Joes Outdoor Power was offering a couple pair for $25 and his usual free shipping, and having only ever gotten really nice stuff from them I didnt hesitate to order them up. The nice thing about discount hydraulics is their web site gives the specs for the items so you can measure yours and check it against their info. SAE #5 is a size ORB means O ring boss (there is an o ring in the fitting). The also have SAE100 R1 hose in 1/4" which is what you want. Many local hydro shop guys only have 3/8' or R2 hose which is much stiffer and much stronger than you need. Not to knock Joe's i have bought a lot of parts from him...but the hose you get will be about the same age of the ones you have that leak....You should consider at least replacing the O rings on the used hoses you buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varosd 1,185 #7 Posted March 24, 2014 I agree with Paul. I ended up doing the rest of the 3 remaining hoses on my Workhorse after having to do one that busted. Buying used also runs the risk of a sealed O-ring that is fine all sealed up but disconnect it and it never seals again. I did have to get one hose made up local as the Eaton 1100 hose line near the filter prevented me from spinning on a SAE/ORB #6/ #4 JIC adapter and then using surplus center premade hose with JIC female ends. I had to have a local shop crimp on swivel SAE/ORB fittings that screw right into the filter mount. After getting the lift lever unscrewed and and the hoses attached to it, I got it all back in and then attached the hoses to the lift cylinder etc. glad I got small hands! I still need to do the 520's 2 lift cylinder lines. those have the hard to find smaller SAE/ORB #5 fittings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,177 #8 Posted March 24, 2014 If by chance these hoses dont work out, I will definitely go the route you gentlemen are describing - for $25 I will take the gamble on these from Joe. Oh, and I will certainly be installing new O rings. You know, oddly enough one of the fittings did not have an O ring on it and it was one of the ones that didnt have a leak! and another was squashed flat and wasnt leaking there, only at the swivel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
