Sticking button, manual lift

[zieg72 209]

OK I've been spoiled, I've only had one other tractor with a manual lift so...  My button sticks and is really difficult to depress to move the lever up and down on my 414-8.  Is there a way to free it up?  How does it work?  

[AMC RULES 37,196]

I don't see your specific model listed, but something in here should help you. 

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/download/2600-tractor-1994-416-8-416-8e-ipl-3316-927pdf/

the manual lift parts diagram is in the third download...(3316-927 1994 416-8 416-8e Pt3 IPL.pdf)

Edited January 1, 2014 by AMC RULES

[KC9KAS 4,744]

I had the same problem on my B-80.

I removed the lift arm and sprayed penetrating oil in it for days and days until it freed up.

I then disassembled it, cleaned it up real good and put it back together with a new spring. I also put some grease in the tube where the rod contacted the inside of the tube.

[Kelly 1,033]

The handle will not remove very easy from the 414 unless your lucky, or I should say VERY lucky, so with that said, try to remove the grip off the handle and put lots of Penetrating oil down the tube, even if the grip does not come off you still can get the oil in, other thing to look for is the lift handle bent ?? the tube/handle should be straight top to bottom if bent, the rod inside will bind up.  

[JimD 3,347]

I've noticed with the B60 and B80 that I usually have to pull the handle up a bit when it's in the up or locked position to relieve the binding of the rod and tube when the weight is pulling down on the handle. The rod inside gets pinched, for lack of a better description, against the tube. I pull it towards me just enough to free up the button, then it releases. This is more of a problem with the plow than the deck because the weight is out in front of the tractor, not directly below it.

Edited January 1, 2014 by JimD

[zieg72 209]

Thanks guys.  There was enough clearance to squirt some PB Blaster down there to free it up some.  Jim D, I think you must be right, taking off the plow blade definitely made it easier.  Now I need to trim my right foot rest as it snags some on the plow going up and down in the closest position. That 14 hp is respectable and just sips the gas. 

[KC9KAS 4,744]

I've noticed with the B60 and B80 that I usually have to pull the handle up a bit when it's in the up or locked position to relieve the binding of the rod and tube when the weight is pulling down on the handle. The rod inside gets pinched, for lack of a better description, against the tube. I pull it towards me just enough to free up the button, then it releases. This is more of a problem with the plow than the deck because the weight is out in front of the tractor, not directly below it.

I have to do the same thing with most of my manual lifts.....Nature of the beast.

[zieg72 209]

Now I had the opposite problem, the button works fine but now the blade won't stay up.  I pull it up and it holds some then goes crashing to the ground.  Note to self, never use the height adjustment to keep the blade off the stone parking area when the blade won't stay up...  Snapped the bugger clean off...CRAP...  Anyone got a used set up that might solve my problem???

Edited January 4, 2014 by zieg72

[lobo 22]

I have a C-100 and have found that if my lift chain or rod isn't adjusted right the release button will stick or not hold, back the trinion off a bit and see if that works for you.  Hope this helps.

[can whlvr 994]

iv,e had to replace the spring under the rubber grip on the lift lever,i also had to replace the cup that the spring sits in ,this is also a symptom of a bent handle,then if its not anything mentioned look at the part behind the cove,r,the one the rod locks into,had to replace one of those before too,hopefully its just the linkage getting in the way,thats easy to fix

[Tankman 3,523]

Spraying PB Blaster down the lift button hole is PM (preventative maintenance) for my Horses.

 

WD's spray white lithium grease will also do the trick (might even be be more effective).

 

I probably spend a lot of time on PM, semi-retired I have plenty of time. I like to keep the Stallions groomed and at-the-ready!

Edited January 5, 2014 by Tankman

[zieg72 209]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the responses.  I need to tear into the whole lift mechanism to see how it works.  The knob that adjusts the height, (threaded rod) that goes through is snapped off clean at the 90.  I know some of my problem was using the 520H's curved plow handle and it was catching on the foot rest.  We are in the middle of a major snow event and it is supposed to drop temps to -13 overnight so I am not in any hurry to plow.  On my second pot of coffee, watching the snow fall.

Edited January 5, 2014 by zieg72

[GlenPettit 1,717]

I have had that exact same problem on a C-101, C-161 and a 312, the latch rod just wouldn't stay in the latch.

Turned out the frame had loosened and wore out where the bushing went into and thru the frame, making the assembly wobbly and allowing the latch to release.

Not easy to get to, fixed mine with a lot of JBWeld (but actually welding would have been better), the C-101 has been ten years now, being used for snow plowing every Winter, it has just failed and loosened up again.

 

 

[#2 Latch not staying in the slot on #1 lift lever because #16 Bushing loosed within and from its hole in left Hoodstand frame]

Edited January 5, 2014 by GlenPettit

[zieg72 209]

I have had that exact same problem on a C-101, C-161 and a 312, the latch rod just wouldn't stay in the latch.

Turned out the frame had loosened and wore out where the bushing went into and thru the frame, making the assembly wobbly and allowing the latch to release.

Not easy to get to, fixed mine with a lot of JBWeld (but actually welding would have been better), the C-101 has been ten years now, being used for snow plowing every Winter, it has just failed and loosened up again.

 

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I will have to give it a good look see.  If that is my problem I will be looking for an electric lift set up like my 417-8 had.  Slow lift as it was it still is better than I got and will be a whole lot nicer to my left shoulder as what I have now