TravelinJavelin 620 #1 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) I'm thinking of grabbing this to use my plow attatchment for and from the pics it looks like in good shape, what's a fair price you think runs and goes good Edited December 1, 2013 by TravelinJavelin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posifour11 723 #2 Posted December 1, 2013 Can't help on price. But, the answer is always yes to another one. I believe these 18s are pretty rare. Oddballs interest me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,050 #3 Posted December 1, 2013 Didn't know they ever made a C-181. Could be that someone added an 18hp to the C based tractor and put on new decals. C series tractors make excellent snow plowing machines what ever size engine is in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TravelinJavelin 620 #4 Posted December 1, 2013 yeah its a odd ball but I thinks it legit I've seen only one other on youtube but I welcome anyones more knowledgible point of view I just couldn't get a serial from him he just bought it a while ago used it once and now he's moving, reason for the sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,289 #5 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) If you go to look at it, see what the ID number is on the tag. Edited December 1, 2013 by rmaynard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,438 #6 Posted December 1, 2013 The C-181 is about as popular as the C-171 in this manual http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/file/1144-tractor-1979-c-series-om-part1-late-production-810134r1pdf/ http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/file/1070-tractor-1979-c-series-om-part2-late-production-810134r1pdf/ Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,195 #7 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Yep, think I'd quickly pick that one up if I could. Edited December 1, 2013 by AMC RULES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #8 Posted December 1, 2013 Second generation C series built in 1978 & 1979 M-18 Magnum twin introduced late 1986 / early 1987 I'm rolling up my pant legs and standing on a milk crate for this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TravelinJavelin 620 #9 Posted December 1, 2013 ok well then now you got me thinking maybe I should be weary of this but i'm sure on the hood it says c-181 and its twin from the other pics I've seen of it but who knows of actual hp I really just assumed looked pretty original to me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #10 Posted December 1, 2013 I'd say it's either a C-81 or 101 decal that was modded by a Sharpie marker - or maybe our very own Vinylguy made custom decals for the engine swapper. The tractor looks familiar, but I can't remember if I saw it on here or another website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 23,110 #11 Posted December 1, 2013 ok well then now you got me thinking maybe I should be weary of this but i'm sure on the hood it says c-181 and its twin from the other pics I've seen of it but who knows of actual hp I really just assumed looked pretty original to me? Its not an original machine but that doesn't mean it isn't worth looking at. If the motor swap was done right it should be a pretty stout machine. The C-81's had the 1-1/8" axles with the 8 pinion rear, the best that WH put out. I have two machines that dont have original engines and they perform great! Looks like the pto was hooked up right, Kohler Magnum I think. Mike.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,050 #12 Posted December 2, 2013 I agree with Mike and there's nothing wrong with having more power. Actually that tractor is probably worth more now with that engine in it than it would be with the original one. Assuming things aren't hacked in there. Plus that 18 horse would make a great snow thrower too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TravelinJavelin 620 #13 Posted December 2, 2013 oh I like the idea of the big twin on there but i'm kinda of a original freak, but we'll see I won't have a chance to see it until next week anyways but from what I can see it looks to be nicely done anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #14 Posted December 2, 2013 I never implied it was a bad combination - just that it's not a production model and shouldn't be passed off as one. I put a V twin Vanguard on my GT-1848 earlier this year and it's now my favorite worker - original or not. At least the original decals are still correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dennist 139 #15 Posted December 2, 2013 I emailed the seller last week letting him know it was not original, not that it bothered me on that end, but it must have bothered him, as he would not respond to any offers I made him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TravelinJavelin 620 #16 Posted December 2, 2013 Well I wasn 't sure and I only try to post whats true and far as the combo I didn't take it as a bad combo, sorry for any misunderstanding the guy that owns doesn't even know what he has he thought it was only 8hp and I explained that according to the pic he had a twin and I guessed a kohler 18hp by the looks so I was only going on pics that I saw? but that van guard looks awesome in your gt though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TravelinJavelin 620 #17 Posted December 2, 2013 ok well he said he had some offers from collectors he said but didn't like what he was offered but that's besides the point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boovuc 1,090 #18 Posted December 4, 2013 The more I looked at that engine, the more it reminds me of a KT17 or KT19. It doesn't look like a Magnum! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TravelinJavelin 620 #19 Posted December 4, 2013 is that a good or bad thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boovuc 1,090 #20 Posted December 4, 2013 I'm just throwing it out there. The KT Series I engines had major problems when used on side hills. They were not a pressurized oil systems and far too many blew rods. The Series II KT Kohler engines were much better. You just need to look at that engine if you look at the tractor and get the model number. The Magnum will start with an M. The KT series with KT. The KT's were manufactured before the Magnum Series. The muffler looks like those off of a Magnum but the flywheel tin and shroud look like a KT. I would make sure if he is saying it's a Magnum, that it is in fact....a Magnum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TravelinJavelin 620 #21 Posted December 5, 2013 hey thank you for the tip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dennist 139 #22 Posted December 5, 2013 Just for future reference, engine tin should say spec. #24300 and above for it to be the KT17 Series-II......just to cover myself you can not always trust that someone put the right tin on the engine, but I personally would not worry too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites