Round hood....

[Shuboxlover 481]

I have a heck of a time dating these....I'm getting a little bit better, but have a long ways to go.

What is this guy?  Obviously not the original motor.

 

My guess is a 1960 or 1961

 

Thanks

 

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[Jake Kuhn 1,579]

Looks like a 60 400 or 550. Has the solid seat pan...and I think I see the back and forth throttle cables?

[953 nut 60,086]

Take a picture of the choke/throtle area on the rear of the hood, it will tell the whole story.

[Coadster32 793]

You're right with the 60/61. 60's had a three piece plate design rear, 61 had the casted two piece. 60 had throttle levers, 61 had pull knobs. The 551 had a cutout in the hood frame for the battery. Your hood frame looks like solid piece of sheet metal. If it was a 61, it'd be a 401. Most likely a 60's model you have though. Looks nice either way.

[Shuboxlover 481]

It's not mine yet, hopefully it will be shortly though!!!!

[Wheel Horse Kid 105]

Looks like a pretty solid project. Hope you are able to score it!

[buckrancher 2,694]

You're right with the 60/61. 60's had a three piece plate design rear, 61 had the casted two piece. 60 had throttle levers, 61 had pull knobs. The 551 had a cutout in the hood frame for the battery. Your hood frame looks like solid piece of sheet metal. If it was a 61, it'd be a 401. Most likely a 60's model you have though. Looks nice either way.

Chris

60's had three piece trans

61's used both 401 had three piece 551 used two piece cast trans cases

 

brian

[Theswampthing 8]

I love the roundhoods. I hope you end up with it. Good luck!

[953 nut 60,086]

It's not mine yet, hopefully it will be shortly though!!!!

 

   Go get it, never know if another one will come along.  

[wallfish 18,144]

It's a 1960 tractor and probably a 400, but the 400 and the 550 were the same tractor with different engines. The clutch pedal is a 1960 version.

Looks to be in decent condition and they never cut the hood.

[Old Ways 30]

I'm jealous!  That's a great example of a Middy-Suburban in it's natural colors.  I hope you get it!

[Coadster32 793]

 

You're right with the 60/61. 60's had a three piece plate design rear, 61 had the casted two piece. 60 had throttle levers, 61 had pull knobs. The 551 had a cutout in the hood frame for the battery. Your hood frame looks like solid piece of sheet metal. If it was a 61, it'd be a 401. Most likely a 60's model you have though. Looks nice either way.

Chris

60's had three piece trans

61's used both 401 had three piece 551 used two piece cast trans cases

 

brian

 

 

 

Right on Brian...(Seems as though I'm getting a little patina in the head)

[CasualObserver 3,411]

When you retrieve it, you may be able to discern whether it's a 400 or 550 by these clues....

1. if there is no hole or a plugged hole in the "dash" area of the hood to the right of the steering column it is a 400. 
2. If there is a hole with a switch, it's a 550. 
3. If there is an empty hole, check the front edge of the tool box under the seat for two small holes where the solenoid would have been mounted.  If no holes, it's a 400.  If has holes, it's a 550.

Of course unless the owner knows, this is all just speculative.  Parts were 100% interchangeable, and you're talking about a tractor that is now 53-54 years old.

 

If I were betting.... my guess would be earlier 550, based on the fact it has the solid pan seat, tool box and fenders (standard on 550) and a replacement engine.  Be sure to ask if there is an original engine laying around anywhere.

[Shuboxlover 481]

DID The 400 Have A Kohler, And The 550 Have A LAuson??

[CasualObserver 3,411]

DID The 400 Have A Kohler, And The 550 Have A LAuson??

 

yes.