3xx series vs 4xx series..differences ?

[Tonyp 285]

Obviously HP and Motor.but what are the primary differences between models, especially with the hi/lo 8 speed ?

 

thanks in advance

 

t

[Hodge71 665]

Its kind of a complicated answer. If I remember correctly it was the 308/310/312 that had smaller tires(15x6 front and 23x8.5 rear), smaller steering wheel and a different rear for the hydro models (1 inch axles?). The 314 had the same rear end (Eaton 11), steering wheel and same size tires (16x6.50 front and 23x9.50 rear) as the 400 series machine. The 520 was the same as the 400 series except for a couple bells and whistles like the seat with arm rests, instrument cluster and bigger tires (16x7.50 front and 23x10.50 rear) along with the forward swept axle and gear reduction steering for later 520 models. There was a 516 and 518 back in the 80s that had an Eaton 700 rear which wasnt as robust as the Eaton 11 There might be more but thats about as far as my knowledge goes......

 

edit...come to think of it I think the front spindles were small on the 300 series maybe 3/4", 1" for the 400 series and 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 for the 520. I could be wrong though

Edited May 20, 2013 by hodge71

[Tonyp 285]

Ok I answered my own question  but please feel free to comment...I found my original OP Manual from 1987 !

 

Frames are the same,  trans-axle is the same...

 

Engines are more HP on the 400 series..14 HP and up

 

Tires are bigger on the 400 series which gives it a tad more stock height

 

looking at a 414  without an motor/deck today..otherwise complete

[Hodge71 665]

414 is a great machine. As long as its in good shape I wouldnt hesitate. Do yourself a favor and take it for a god ride. up and down hills and make sure you get that hydro warm. When they are going bad they lose power and go slower the hotter they get. It may save you a bunch of money in the long run to find out now the hydro is shot

Edited May 20, 2013 by hodge71

[Tonyp 285]

414 is a great machine. As long as its in good shape I wouldnt hesitate. Do yourself a favor and take it for a god ride. up and down hills and make sure you get that hydro warm. When they are going bad they lose power and go slower the hotter they get. It may save you a bunch of money in the long run to find out now the hydro is shot

 I would but it has no motor !

 

I am wanting parts and other stuff...price is very low..it's a no brainer...I am wanting extra parts for my 310-8

 

thanks

 

t

[dsholler 54]

I thought that the 400 s also had the 1 1/8th axles, and some of the 300s had the 1 inch. Is that not correct

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[Forest Road 594]

The difference in the eight speeds is minimal. 8,10, and some 12 hp have 4 pinion differentials and rear 1" axles. Some 12 and all higher hp tractors had 8 pinion differentials and 1 - 1/8" rear axles.

520 were the only tractors to have larger 1" front spindles. All other tractors came with 3/4" spindles and of course the difference in the 6" and 8" front rims.

[dsholler 54]

I think the front spindles on the 400 series were shorter than on the 300 so that it would sit level on the larger tires.

[dcrage 630]

Don't know the sizes, but from personal experience. The front spindle on my 1987 418-A has a larger diameter than on my 1990 310-8

[Forest Road 594]

Front spindles are 3/4" diameter. 6" wheels were used on smaller hp tractors. They allowed use of the 37" side discharge. Those spindles where and inch or two longer than the 8" wheel spindles.

[ericj 1,579]

the 6" front tires were used on 416 tractors, hydro and 8 speed where the 37" decks were used. i think the 37" decks made the difference between the 6" and the 8"

 

eric j

[Tankman 3,523]

Never had the pleasure of owning a 300 WH.

The two 400's (3/4" spindles) I have are excellent. Wouldn't expect less from Wheel Horse.

My 520-8 Stallion is a "machine!" The '90 520-8 has the forward swept axle and actual wheel bearings (1" spindles) on the front wheels. With the swept axle, the ride is just a tad smoother (or something?). The Onan (hours unknown) sounds great and I haven't had one problem with it. Knock on wood!

If the price is right, local pickup and the Horse complete, I would grab the 400.

The 416-8 an '85 has the Kohler with points. The '88 414-8 has the Kohler Magnum. Either engine is fine. Wheel Horse makes it, Kohler shakes it.

[wheeledhorseman 579]

Obviously HP and Motor.but what are the primary differences between models, especially with the hi/lo 8 speed ?

 

thanks in advance

 

t

I posed a similar question a couple of months back - the thread is

 

Andy

[can whlvr 994]

there are exceptions,my 312-h is the 1100 series eaton,same as a 520,and in 86 the 414 used a k series,in 87 the magnum was used on the 414,and i have a 308-8 with no luxeries,the "smaller rear end"and its my most reliable tractor