E15 any good for our tractors, or all bad?

[GlenPettit 1,717]

 E15

What should we do about this new gas in our Wheel Horses ???

 

 

 

 

 

If your CAR IS OLDER THAN 2012, you need to AVOID THE NEW E15 GAS that is just starting to show up at gas stations. Most car companies will not honor the warranty on your car if you use this new gas. Watch video to see why.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2000862202001/

 

 

you can also check out:   http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp

 

[SousaKerry 503]

Buy more carb kits and don't let your fuel sit....

[JackC 617]

Do whatever you can to keep Ethanol blended fuels out of your Wheel Horse.

10% is bad enough and 15% is even worse.

 

When I cleaned the carburetor on the ONAN in my 520HC I found about a tablespoon full of light brown powder.

Moisture got into the fuel and there was phase separation.

 

Here is what this crap does to your fuel system.

 

http://www.workingwaterfront.com/articles/What-is-phase-separation/13431

[Challenger 27]

I'm exploring buying aviation gas from our small local airport.

 

I won't use ethanol blends in anything if I can avoid it.  Our local marina offers non-ethanol in season too.

[pacer 3,177]

I was having real problems with my small equip - press washer, string trimmer, blower, chain saw.... A friend tells me about one local station that was carrying ethanol free premium fuel, next day I'm there and fill all my cans. I am absolutely blown away with the difference in my tools - I can crank them without straining a gut, they idle and just generally run much better. Had intended to just use in small equip, but I now have it in my D-18 --- ethanol sucks!!

[Motor Head110 7]

So will the 15% ethanol make a motor run funny?

[cheesegrader 433]

Ethanol ruins the rubber seals and hoses in small engines.

Up here in outboard motor country, ethanol free fuel is clearly marked and easy to find.

10% ethanol fuel will separate if stored over the winter.  

Who the He!! thought that E10 wasn't bad enough, and that what we really need is E15?

[Motor Head110 7]

Is there any way to tell what the percentage of ethonal in my fuel is.

Does anyone know what percentage Sheetz carrys?

[varosd 1,185]

http://pure-gas.org/

 

lucky there is a ethanol free station in Camp Hill..about 5 mins from me!

[Kevbo 81]

http://pure-gas.org/

 

lucky there is a ethanol free station in Camp Hill..about 5 mins from me!

 

I have used this app on my iPhone! Very helpful...E15...ugh

[chrisd200(inactive) 56]

Ethanol = BAD!!!!! Not sure about our horses, but any of the newer carbureted equipment will only run on 10% or less! Not gonna risk it in my horses!!!!!

[buckrancher 2,694]

E-15 do not use in your tractors for any reason

[Coadster32 793]

Cool site. Thnaks for the link. Unfortunatly, Connecticut isn't even listed.

[Road-Track 39]

I only use Marked pump Non- Ethanol High test in my herd. Cost a bit more, but Never have any problems.

 

I heard somewhere that no high test contains ethanol due to its higher octane rating.

 

Is this a true statement?

[welderman85 53]

No where around me has enthol free so I treat it with lucas product I cant remember the name bit is susposd to help

[JackC 617]

I only use Marked pump Non- Ethanol High test in my herd. Cost a bit more, but Never have any problems.

 

I heard somewhere that no high test contains ethanol due to its higher octane rating.

 

Is this a true statement?

 

Not true.

 

http://www.bellperformance.com/blog/bid/110140/Does-premium-gas-have-ethanol-in-it

[Forest Road 594]

IM all for the environment. But this BS with Ethanol is an assault on the A,erican public. And a cash cow for the the ethanol producers.

I've been using products such as SEF, stihl premixed fuel, sears/craftsmen fuel in my chainsaws and blowers, etc. I doubt I use more than a 2 gallons a year. So it's not a huge expense. As for using aviation fuel in 2 stroke equipment my local stihl dealer cautioned against for several reasons. None of which I can recall at the moment.

I only use high test in my horses. They stay at the vacation home so they really don't see a lot of use. If they were used weekly at home I'd probably run regular fuel in them. In the summer months I don't bother with a fuel stabilizer in my home lawn mower gas. I drain it completely for winter. As for my horses I always use a fuel stabilizer. And I always shut the fuel off and let it run dry. It's cheaper and easier than a carb kit! I also have a primer bulb installed for quicker starts. Next up is an electric fuel pump.

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/sef-small-engine

[Hodge71 665]

Jeez this did nothing but confuse me even more. I thought there was tier 1 and tier 2 gasolines. Tier 1 being no ethanol and that high test was a tier 1 gas. I have definitely noticed a huge difference in the way the 18 auto and Suburban 400 run on Sunoco 93. I thought it was the lack of ethanol. Now I have no idea why they would run better than they did on 87. I always use Seafoam in my gas anyhow. It works as a great stabilizer.This whole ethanol thing sucks for us to have to deal with. Just another government program jamming it down our throats....

[SousaKerry 503]

Just another government program jamming it down our throats...

If them dang tree hugers feeding the money to Washington had it their way no-body would have our evil polluting small engines.  But I wonder how they would feel if their landscaping bills went up 10x  because the guy had to cut their lawns with a push reel mower.

[brandonozz 168]

The end results are higher prices for everything.  Corn is used in so many products and feed.  The farmers in Indiana are paying $200 an acre (to lease) to farm corn there from what I was told by a pipeliner when I was working in the area.  The cost of fuel didn't go down but everything else goes up.

I second the comment about the ethanol deteriorating fuel lines in small engines and boats - especially older equipment.  Where do you think all that black "goo" goes?  Cheap insurance to buy ethanol free fuel in my mind.

[pinecone 26]

tks for bringing this topic up. i live in ct. and did not know you could get non ethanol gas here or anywhere for that matter. not in each town but close enough. gonna fill up all my cans. been using the premix 2 cycle non eth. in a can for the chain saw and weed wacker but its very costly. might rethink the mixing part again.

[smoreau 658]

If you can stay away from it, do so!! if its your only choice, then use stable ethenal treatment   to help it from phasing. Do not let the fuel sit for more then 30 days. it will go bad that quick. you will have to change your fuel lines more often, as the alcohol will remove the oils in the rubber and cause them to get hard. Do not store your tractor with fuel in it that contains alcohol.  to will collect moisture and will cause it to rust metal tanks. It will also eat away the aluminum in the pumps and carb. If you can find it, use pure gas, rec fuel or any fuel that is alcohol free. it will cause less problems and last much longer.

[Save Old Iron 1,571]

or you could force the phase separation by introducing about 1 ounce of water to a gallon of gas, the ethanol will combine with the water and both will fall out of solution from the gasoline. Drain off the bottom 10% of the fuel container and add a pinch of octane booster to get back the 4 or 5 octane points you will loose in the phase separation - walla - always available ethanol free gasoline no longer eating your fuel lines, electrolytically corroding dissimilar metals in the fuel system and no longer able to produce a significant phase separated layer at the bottom of the fuel tank.

[Hodge71 665]

Has anyone tried running 100 octane low lead av-gas in their horses? Have they started adding the ethanol crap to that too? Just wondering what the effects would be on our ponies with that bang in the tank

[KC9KAS 4,744]

At the Farm Bureau CO-OP (Country Mark) their "high test" fuel is ethanol free, but everything else has at least 10%

From what I have heard from fuel distributors....In Indiana anyway....All fuel has 10% ethanol unless marked differently.

 

A farmer friend of mine just cusses the ethanol fuel and what it does to his gasoline powered engines, but just loves the price he gets for his harvested corn! And our government is to blame! Duh, what else is new!