tarcoleo 119 #1 Posted July 25, 2012 On my "C" tractors, have had cause to want heavier duty front wheel bearings and will be installing roller bearings on order at- http://www.stenspartsdirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=74_379_1304&products_id=2553 Anyone try these units? Also, are cotter pins the best solution for securing wheels to axles? Tom in a little coastal village in The Ocean State Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,952 #2 Posted July 25, 2012 The problems that I see are that 1. the bearing may be so deep that they will block your zerk hole; and 2. you will have your spindle riding directly on the roller bearings. Unless the spindle is perfectly true, with no wear, you are going to wear something out very quickly. Personally, I would go with a high quality set of original OEM type bearings. With proper maintenance, I've never seen a set wear out. Even tractors designed for FEL's such as the C-195 and the D-Series with heavy-duty spindles, still use the enclosed ball bearings. Just my worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hbrooks49 12 #3 Posted July 25, 2012 After a front wheel fell off when mowing (split ring type) I replaced both sides with hi quality split locking collars. They should not come off but are easily released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarcoleo 119 #4 Posted July 25, 2012 Thanks gentlemen, I'm thinking that 1) the load on the front wheels is light enough and 2) that the roller bearings spread the load over a sufficiently large area of the axle--so that wear should not be significant if there is adequate lubrication. Looks like there will be. The split locking collar is a great idea. Will post if this doesn't work out. Thanks again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roscoemi 245 #5 Posted July 26, 2012 Bought a set of spindles off a wh that was smaller than my C-121 that had a bolt in the end, model unknown. The rings on one of mine had come off twice in 15 feet in my yard and had to go. No more problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SousaKerry 500 #6 Posted July 26, 2012 Do not use roller bearings on non hardened shafts, trust me I learned this lesson the hard way when I engineered a conveyor transmission system early in my career. The shafts wore through in less then 2 months of operation. Most bearing manufacturers recommend a hardness of 58-60Rc for roller bearings, that's about as hard as a good file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarcoleo 119 #7 Posted July 28, 2012 Thanks Sous*** I do appreciate your experience with the conv system. Here are the differences from the application you discussed- 1) very light load, 2) very low rpm's. 3) axles exposed to rollers over relatively large areas. It might be preferable if the axles were hardened (then prone to brittle failure) or there were inner races on these bearing units. Not the case, anyway, I hope I'm right. But if I'm wrong, I'll find out before the situation goes too far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Toolman 22 #8 Posted July 28, 2012 JD garden tractors have roller or ball brgs in the front wheels, but the brg has its own inner an outer race an it slides over the 1" frt spindle of the machine. So it really doesn't need to be hardened. I used the frt wheels from a junker 214 for my sulky, an thats where I found out that they used regular brgs instead of bushings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,515 #9 Posted July 29, 2012 Low weight, slow speed, keep 'em greased. Never had a problem (half dozen WH's, and more). You might like to try Rick at http://www.majesticshardware.com/ . Knowledegeable and usually has OEM bearings, stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarcoleo 119 #10 Posted August 4, 2012 Well guys, this is how it played out. The roller bearings I was considering presented problems I did not anticipate. Without inner races, it would have been necessary to provide thrust bearings (brass or bronze washers) on the inside and outside of the wheel/bearings. This might have worked if I wanted to rely on the snap ring to retain the assembly onto the spindle. But I liked the idea from HBrooks above suggesting the use of a split shaft collar. But spindle length would not allow roller bearings, plus the thrust washers, plus the shaft collars unless I altered the wheel itself. No way. Soooooo... went back to the stock ball bearings and shaft collar arrangement and am happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites