Help Identifying Some Tractors

[OhioGuy89 4]

Hi everyone, I'm new here, and I need some help identifying a couple old WheelHorses I've got. The one says " Raider 12" on the side, and has a Kohler Engine. The model number, from what I can tell is 1-6241, and the Serial # is 570314.

The Second Tractor says " WheelHorse 657" on the side, and has Kohler Engine. The model # is 1-657, and the Serial # is 317337.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

[OhioGuy89 4]

I've uploaded photos of the tractors in a gallery entitled " Our Wheelhorses"

[redhorse100 4]

hi the raider number comes up 1969 and the wheel horse with 657 comes up 1967 but with a differance motor in it so not to sure on that one unless the motor was changed.

[OhioGuy89 4]

I'll have to look. Thanks for finding out. Where did you find this information?

[redhorse100 4]

hi i have a wheel horse tractor master model list that i printed off line. you can also go to www.toro.com go to parts and put in your numbers and it will bring up stuff about your horse. most of the time this works but sometime it comes up no model number found. i hope this helps joe.

[stevasaurus 23,300]

This link is on this site...

[OhioGuy89 4]

Thanks for the list! I've managed to find them both. It seems the 657 has had its origninal engine replaced, since it lists it as a Techumseh, but mine has a Kohler.

[mid60's 93]

Are you sure it's not an 857? That would have an 8hp Kohler but would still be a 1967 model.

[Martin 2,133]

i think the 657 (or 857) model number would be a T-657 or T-857 not a 1-657 or 1-857.......

since you mentioned the serial number do you have the tag off this one that you could post pics of, or tags on both of them?

[OhioGuy89 4]

I just checked again after you mentioned that actually. You were right, it is a T-657, not a 1-657

[stevasaurus 23,300]

Somebody did you a favor and replaced the Techy. :) :)

[OhioGuy89 4]

haha. I take it wasn't that good of an engine? What does the "T" in the model name stand for?

[COMMANDO6 20]

Somebody did you a favor and replaced the Techy. :)

Hey, I like the techy in mine!

I was just looking at the list and I've got a stupid question. It lists two 1968 commando 8s, exactly the same, but one model number is 1-4831 and the other is 1-4832.

[stevasaurus 23,300]

Somebody did you a favor and replaced the Techy. :)

Hey, I like the techy in mine!

I was just looking at the list and I've got a stupid question. It lists two 1968 commando 8s, exactly the same, but one model number is 1-4831 and the other is 1-4832.

I believe one of those numbers is a typo...the list has a few of them on it.

I like the Techy's also, just kidding about the favor. They are a very good engine, the carbs are very touchy, and since they have been bought out, parts are getting really expensive. I am not sure what the "T" stands for.

[Martin 2,133]

haha. I take it wasn't that good of an engine? What does the "T" in the model name stand for?

i assume the T stands for tractor.