Steve in Mo 3 #1 Posted January 31, 2012 Ok next question. The tires on my 1966 L106 Lawn Ranger are original. They are pretty cracked but have the Wheel Horse name on them so I would like to keep them. All four have tubes so that is good. But as usual I cannot get the bead to come loose on one side of two different wheels. I have been soaking them in PB blaster and now brake fluid no luck. Any suggestions would be great as I hate to dammage them beyound use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,369 #2 Posted January 31, 2012 Harbor Freight has a $19.99 bead breaker. Might be worth getting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve in Mo 3 #3 Posted January 31, 2012 I have one of those and for it's cost works pretty well. But will not break the bead on these old units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,369 #4 Posted January 31, 2012 In that case, you'll have to spring a couple of bucks and take them to a tire dealer who dismounts and mounts L&G tires. My local guy popped a couple off for me for $5.00 for the pair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy w h 5 #5 Posted January 31, 2012 All ya gotta do is use a 1/2" wide BLUNT chisel and a hammer to break the bead loose If you have any questions shoot me a P/M Indy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hodge71 671 #6 Posted January 31, 2012 All ya gotta do is use a 1/2" wide BLUNT chisel and a hammer to break the bead loose If you have any questions shoot me a P/M Indy X2 I havent found a tire yet that wouldnt come loose using this method. Usually once its loose in 1 area you can stand on the sidewall and the rest peels right off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,033 #7 Posted January 31, 2012 I've had a few of the LawnRanger front tires the 4" ones rusted to the beads so bad I had to cut the tires off then I still could not get the beads off the rims, I picked at them for a few days got some off, then I was having a camp fire one night I tossed them in the fire and burned the rubber off the rims, good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 994 #8 Posted January 31, 2012 i wonder if the etank would work when they are that rusted on,i use a large c clamp and a peice of flat bar that the end of the clamp pushes on,i can get skid steers tires off that way,and the blunt chisel is good too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkalunka 7 #9 Posted February 1, 2012 I have to agree with Indy...that is the way to go...my only suggestion on top of that would be to lube them up for a day prior with a simple petro jelly to make them more plyable and acceptable to the abuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,744 #10 Posted February 1, 2012 Lay the tire/wheel flat on the floor and lay a 4' long 2 x 4 on the bead...not the wheel....then drive a vehicle wheel up the 2 x 4, and presto....the beads breaks away from the wheel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorekiwi 761 #11 Posted February 1, 2012 Homemade bead breaker: I put a bolt through it and into the side of the reciever on the back of my truck. I will say though that I have had a couple of sets of tires that I thought I would probably destroy if I tried to dismount them. So I've just broken the beads, painted the outside of the wheels, and aired them back up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 994 #12 Posted February 1, 2012 i tried the truck on the 2x4 before and tore my air dam off when the tire flipped up when i was driving on the wood :banghead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleredrider 409 #13 Posted February 1, 2012 I have the HF bead breaker and have yet to have a tire that DIDN'T break loose. I parted out a 702 and 753, tires were beyond nasty, popped them off like they weren't there. I did ATV tires too, they are a royal pain... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butch 194 #14 Posted February 1, 2012 i tried the truck on the 2x4 before and tore my air dam off when the tire flipped up when i was driving on the wood Well? Did ya break the bead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve in Mo 3 #15 Posted February 1, 2012 I took them to the tire guy this AM hope he doesn't tear them up to bad. Surekiwi I really like to breaker looks to have a lot more leverage and more stable than my HF unit. I will put it on my list of tools to build dosent look to be a big deal at all. Thanks to all. Hey Help why in the heck am I getting the line through my other post and not this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinoman279 10 #16 Posted February 2, 2012 The last bead I had to break loose I subjected to every one of the common tricks. I was about to give up when I tried something that sounded a bit crazy. I took a 2 1/2 inch wide ratchet strap and ran it through the center of the rim. I then placed a jackstand upside down on the bead so the large base was facing upwards. Then I hooked the hooks of the strap together creating a loop with the tire, rim, and inverted jackstand. I ratcheted away a few clicks. The jackstand started to lean over so I took a scrap 6' long pipe and put it over the center post of the stand. Pried it back upright and the bead popped off immediately with no effort at all. It was a last ditch effort after wasting time trying everything else. I was actually in the process of putting away everything else that I had tried when I just happen to trip over the jackstand by the bench. If I ever need to do this again, this will be the first thing I try. Literally took about a minute to do what I had already tried for well over an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 994 #17 Posted February 2, 2012 in responce did it break the bead,ive had some work(i used this many times before the mishap)but not the last time and im not doing that way again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trouty56 567 #18 Posted February 2, 2012 I've had a few of the LawnRanger front tires the 4" ones rusted to the beads so bad I had to cut the tires off then I still could not get the beads off the rims, I picked at them for a few days got some off, then I was having a camp fire one night I tossed them in the fire and burned the rubber off the rims, good luck. Kelly you're quite the character...I'll bet you're a riot to hang out with..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,744 #19 Posted February 2, 2012 "It was a last ditch effort after wasting time trying everything else" Maybe you actually loosened it up with all the other stuff you tried! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve in Mo 3 #20 Posted February 2, 2012 Thanks to everyone, the jack stand idea has some real merit as does the home made unit on the trl. hitch. I gave in and tood them to the shop he did it no charge but said they where really stuck and hard even for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialwheelhorse 174 #21 Posted February 2, 2012 I'm with Kelly on this. Most I've had that just would not come off for anything weren't worth saving so I cut vast majority off with a sawzall and the rest just happened to fall in the fire. Beats stripping paint as well. JIM in Texas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,836 #22 Posted February 2, 2012 :USA: I Just got my $50.00 special from Harbor Fright in as I am writing this I think I will have to build a base or drill hole in the garage. Still thinking of it, will send picks when out of the box. It will do up to 12" rims. Gary B.......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialwheelhorse 174 #23 Posted February 2, 2012 They really do work good but you sure need a good anchor. Mine is mounted on a big heavy junk heavy equipment wheel, still need some concrete or a littl e something else in that to really hold it down good. Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,713 #24 Posted February 2, 2012 I have both the small tire Harbor freight tire machine (mounted to a work bench) and their full size one. It is mounted on a sheet of plywood. I use it to break the beads on the 12" rear wheels. i weight the plywood sheet with Blown KT17 Block. The full size one is typical HF...Cheap. I have bent the bead breaker so many times the arms are more like silly putty than steel. For breaking beads on larger tires i have screw drive manual Army surplus bead breaker. It is slow but effective. (It can't deal with the small 12 in rims but works great on 14 inch and up to 20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtieguy 334 #25 Posted February 2, 2012 Mount that HP tire changer on a heavy piece of plate steel (so big you have to stand on it)...then weld a 6" or 8" bolt on top of the upright part...Whoa, you have a tire changer for BOTH 12" rims and little 8" rims...use a small disc blade to clamp the 8" down so you can work on it!....poor country boys have poor country ways!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites