71_Bronco 1,072 #1 Posted July 29, 2011 I am in the process of tearing down my 71 Bronco 14, and I want to pull the motor next. It is the cast iron kohler 14 horse motor. How much does the sucker weigh? Can 2 guys lift and carry it? I have access to an automotive engine hoist that I was thinking about using. Also, it looks like the motor is flat on the bottom. Can anybody confirm? I would like to put it on a little dolley so I can roll it around with ease. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shuboxlover 479 #2 Posted July 29, 2011 It's not stupid heavy...but it's no light weight....I've picked up a 16hp single kohler, and a 20 hp onan, while I wouldn't want to carry them down to my mailbox, they are light enough to get them out of your tractor and on a dolly of some sort by yourself. Sometimes it's easier to do it by yourself as sometimes another guy can just get in the way. Good luck :woohoo: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH nut 553 #3 Posted July 29, 2011 Its only about 80-90 pounds, nothing you cant handle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #4 Posted July 29, 2011 Thanks guys, I didn't think it was gonna be too heavy, but just wanted to ask. It looks big and bulky, and a little intimidating to be honest lol. I would love to pull it tonight, but I have to pack for a weekend trip to Vermont to see family. Looks like it will have to happen after work sometime during next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mavfreak 11 #5 Posted July 29, 2011 It's not stupid heavy...but it's no light weight....I've picked up a 16hp single kohler, and a 20 hp onan, while I wouldn't want to carry them down to my mailbox, they are light enough to get them out of your tractor and on a dolly of some sort by yourself. Sometimes it's easier to do it by yourself as sometimes another guy can just get in the way. Good luck tyson you lifted a Onan 20. Wow I had to hoist my 16 horse briggs twin cause I just couldn't get it up off the frame myself. Now I could carry it once it was out well from bench to engine stand. I have a kholer 16 on the floor and I can pick that up but not a twin. And yes many times I had an extra hand around and it seamed to be more of a hindrance than help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312Hydro 474 #6 Posted July 29, 2011 Use the engine hoist.Might as well work safe for you and the engine since it's available.Years from now you'll be glad you did.Get it up on a table where you can work on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #7 Posted July 29, 2011 Another thing I just thought of is a come-along. The garage that it's in has 10' ceilings, and exposed 2x10 rafters. I might be able to just lift it straight up, move the tractor (still a rolling chassis at this point), lower it onto a cart, and go from there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mavfreak 11 #8 Posted July 29, 2011 Another thing I just thought of is a come-along. The garage that it's in has 10' ceilings, and exposed 2x10 rafters. I might be able to just lift it straight up, move the tractor (still a rolling chassis at this point), lower it onto a cart, and go from there. That would work just keep the hoist close to the supports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorts 182 #9 Posted July 29, 2011 It's not so much the weight as it is hard to get a good hold of, either use a hoist/lift of some sort or build up a cart so you can slide it sideways off of the frame and away from the tractor before you try to lift it. as a youngster I used to fall for the big and strong line of bs and just used brute force when i could, now I use every work saving device I can and only resort to brute force when absolutely necessary work smarter not harder :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
305 380 #10 Posted July 29, 2011 i'd use the engine hoist and not a come-a-long. i'm not a big fan of them , i've seen too much stuff ruined and fingers pinched with them to ever trust one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anglo Traction 761 #11 Posted July 29, 2011 It is the cast iron kohler 14 horse motor. How much does the sucker weigh? Can 2 guys lift and carry it? I have access to an automotive engine hoist that I was thinking about using. Also, it looks like the motor is flat on the bottom. Can anybody confirm? The K301/321s is about 120lbs all up, if I remember the spec in the Manual correctly. The Engine that was originally fitted to the Bronco 14 had a Flat oil Pan. No problem for 2 people to lift, but would be best to lift it while strapped to a Steel Scaffold Pole so you don't fall over eachother. I had to sort my 12hp out on my own and I'm not strong enough, so I dismantled it down to it's basic Block while still on the Tractor. I found removing the Flywheel much easier while the engine was still bolted to the frame. I could then lift it with no trouble onto the Bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71_Bronco 1,072 #12 Posted July 29, 2011 HOLY F**K!! That sucker was heavier then I thought it would be. I ended up grabbing a small pallet from work to mount it on while it is out of the tractor. 120 pounds sounds a bit more realistic. I disconnected everything, unbolted it, and waited for my dad to get home. When he got home, we just had one of us on each side, lift straight up, side-stepped, and went straight down. Now that it is on the pallet, it will be a little easier to move as we now have good hand-holds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH nut 553 #13 Posted July 31, 2011 I guess Im just used to moving heavy stuff around the shop, Now a twin I would have to put my beer down and use 2 hands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleredrider 409 #14 Posted July 31, 2011 I never picked one of those but thought the Onan 20 horse was lite for what it was. I think the 10 horse diesel is heavier... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAM58 30 #15 Posted July 31, 2011 Might be heavier than you think.... A 20 - 23 HP Vangard B&S weighes in at 160 lbs. with an alum. block Cast Iron sleeves and to top it off, hard to get a good hold of. :woohoo: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,152 #16 Posted July 31, 2011 A 20 - 23 HP Vangard B&S weighes in at 160 lbs. A Vanguard twin is around 80 to 85 pounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAM58 30 #17 Posted August 2, 2011 Specs below from Small Engine Warehouse.... Must have a 80lb. shipping crate. 23 HP Vangard Made by Briggs & Stratton 23hp OHV V-Twin Comes with kit to fit into a Wheel Horse 520H tractors -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Product Number: 386447-WH520H 23hp Vanguard Oil Filter & Cooler Complete Engine Conversion Kit Overhead Valve Design Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeve Mounting: Horizontal Electric Start: Yes Fuel Tank: no tank, has fuel pump Oil Capacity: 1.16 Quart w/o Oil Filter, 1.48 w oil filter Oil Type: SAE 10w-30 Muffler: Included Manifold: Made For: Wheel Horse 520H Shipping Weight: 160 Pounds Condition: New Warranty: 2-Year Manufacturer's Warranty Returns: Limited Allowed Replaces the Onan engine that is no longer available These come pre-wired to plug right in to your existing wiring. Mounting base to bolt it down to your existing holes are included. An oil drain valve is included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRE1992 135 #18 Posted August 3, 2011 I never picked one of those but thought the Onan 20 horse was lite for what it was. I think the 10 horse diesel is heavier... Id have to agree, I didn't think that 20hp onan I got off you was all that heavy , Ive been bouncing it around quite bit, if you guys want to lift something heavy I invite you to lift the big ole 60" deck by yourself. I lifted it by myself onto two saw horses, I think I sat down for about 5 minutes after that! No one was around to help me and I wanted to get stuff done. Must be my youthfulness lol . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRE1992 135 #19 Posted August 3, 2011 I just weighed myself, and then picked the engine up and weighed myself again. These are the results I found: Onan 20hp: My weight: Me+engine weight: Result Onan 20hp weighs in at 115.4lbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
