K181 Carb rebuild help

[ohio704 0]

Hi all

I was in the process of re-building the carburetor on the 854 with the K181 motor...ran into a few problems...

First off, the kit came with a new one of these things that controls the butterfly valve. (don't know what its called) How do I replace it?

Next, this fell out of the carburetor i think, how do i put it back in?

And last, it looks like the throttle is not hooked up. How should I fix that?

Thanks guys for helping out a complete newbie !

[mr.pipes 4]

There is plenty of info on this site and the web if you use the search function. In the F.A.Q. there is a pinned link to Brian Millers page that may help. Search kohler carb rebuild and there is a step by step post on how to rebuild a Kohler carb.

Good for you for taking on a rebuild but I think you should have done some research first. The part in the second pic is the fuel inlet needle.

[rmaynard 16,344]

I'm going to say this, and I hope that you are not offended.

You should not try to rebuild a carburetor if you don't know that what you are holding in your hand is a set of ignition points, and not a carburetor part.

Please don't get me wrong. Everyone has to start somewhere when it comes to learning about engines, but I would strongly advise stopping where you are and do a little reading first.

Here is a link to the service manual for your engine:

http://www.mywheelhorse.com/graphics/file/..._tp_2379_SM.pdf

[ohio704 0]

I'm going to say this, and I hope that you are not offended.

You should not try to rebuild a carburetor if you don't know that what you are holding in your hand is a set of ignition points, and not a carburetor part.

Please don't get me wrong. Everyone has to start somewhere when it comes to learning about engines, but I would strongly advise stopping where you are and do a little reading first.

I'm not offended at all.

I did download and read the rebuild how to written by "T-Mo" .Before buying the rebuild kit, But that mainly covered cleaning and seals replacement.

This is my first tractor ever, let alone carb rebuild...But i firmly believe that with patience and the right guidance, i can do it.

I am still learning but i feel that after fixing this tractor up, I will have learned quite a bit.

I did search before posting, but couldn't find answers to my exact question (maybe my phrasing was wrong).

All in all, any help will be greatly appreciated guys.

Thanks

[rmaynard 16,344]

Great. As I said, we all start somewhere.

In the first picture, you are holding the ignition points. Does not go with the carb.

The second picture is the float valve. It goes in the bowl area of the carb and is held in place by the float assembly. (See page 6.5 of the manual that I gave you the link for). The instructions for installation and adjustment should have been in the package.

I don't have a picture of the linkage for the throttle/governor arm, but I'm sure someone will post a picture for you. A drawing of it is on page 6.28 of the manual. :thumbs:

[ohio704 0]

Great. As I said, we all start somewhere.

In the first picture, you are holding the ignition points. Does not go with the carb.

The second picture is the float valve. It goes in the bowl area of the carb and is held in place by the float assembly. (See page 6.5 of the manual that I gave you the link for). The instructions for installation and adjustment should have been in the package.

I don't have a picture of the linkage for the throttle/governor arm, but I'm sure someone will post a picture for you. A drawing of it is on page 6.28 of the manual.

Thanks for the help guys....

I figured out that my first question was pretty stupid...I figured out how the float valve goes in...

Any pictures of a throttle linkage setup would be really helpful

Thanks

[Martin 2,133]

here you go.....

looks like just a piece of hard wire the same gauge as the holes that it fits in could be bent fairly easy. the length is 2.5 inches long from bend to bend.

[Duff 206]

Ohio, there are no stupid questions........

Just to help you in your learning, the upright arm in the photo of the carb linkage is actually connected to the governor. The piece of wire then connects it to the actual throttle plate in the carb.

I admire your persistence - I tried and gave up. I sent my carbs to Brian Miller's shop for rebuilds. Great work at a fair price. Just something to put in the back of your mind!

Good luck, keep asking questions, and we'll be here to help you along!

Duff :thumbs:

[ohio704 0]

Ohio, there are no stupid questions........

Just to help you in your learning, the upright arm in the photo of the carb linkage is actually connected to the governor. The piece of wire then connects it to the actual throttle plate in the carb.

I admire your persistence - I tried and gave up.

[ohio704 0]

Just Finished the re-build...went well!

Here's the finished product.

Thanks guys.

[shorts 182]

:wh:

several things, first it is helpful to have your location, city & state listed so we know if who is close by to help out with parts etc,

next, find your local authorized kohler engine dealer and go make a new friend, he will be a wealth of knowledge and source of parts both new and possible used.

finally you should replace the gasket between the carb and engine, a leak here will prevent the engine from running correctly. clean the old gasket off both surfaces with a sharp scraper, I like to use a razor scraper or a single edge razor blade, a squirt of ezoff oven cleaner will help to soften the old gasket. CAUTION when using aerosol chemicals wear your eye protection. oven cleaner and gasket remover are pretty close in chemical makeup and will burn you especially thin skinned parts like the back of your hands and your face. :thumbs:

[Electro12WH 50]

Have you thought about taking a course in mechanics at your local community college?

[ohio704 0]

Have you thought about taking a course in mechanics at your local community college?

WOW...how did you know???? I'm starting a mechanics course at the local community college next month.

I wanted to start sooner, but im a full time student at Ohio State University... so my time was a little limited until summer.

I'm in sunny Columbus Ohio :wh:

[tunahead72 2,551]

I'm starting to like this kid -- 19 years old, full-time student, and still finding time to work on Wheel Horse tractors and Kohler engines.

I wish I had been that focused when I was that age. When I was 19, I was ... uh ... doing other things.

ohio704 -- I see from the other topic you've started that you're having trouble getting this baby running, I'll let others with more knowledge help you troubleshoot your way through this. In the meantime, good luck, understand that you'll make some mistakes along the way, don't worry about it, it's all part of the learning experience. And have fun with it! :wh:

[shorts 182]

:thumbs: knowledge is the only thing that no one can take away from you. concentrate on the basic principals,pay attention to the details, cleanliness is important to proper inspection,measurement and assembly.

take the time to document the disassembly process-tags,notes,pictures- it will help you inspect and reassemble the parts correctly. after you learn the basics most mechanical things will tell you what they want/need as you clean and inspect them "if you look at it it will tell you what it wants". don't be afraid to ask but remember that if you look it up in the book you will better remember the info.

don't trust your memory for the spec's, always look them up and write them down.

be safe and enjoy the process of learning and repairing machines, it's been good to me for 50 years does that make me an old timer :wh: