953/1054 Hydraulic Pump Updates

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

I decided to begin my two Wheel Horsehydraulic pump rebuild projects today.

The first photo shows a Hein-Werner hydraulic pump which was used on the 953 and 1054. The HY-2 and HY-3 pumps had a longer control valve built into the pump with the threaded lever on the exterior of the pump to lower and raise the lifting function.

You can not tell the difference between a 953/1054 pump from the outside.

I set up a table and used a plastic Christmas ornament storage box on our folding cafeteria type table in the basement. Brought down the tools, repalcemetn parts and decided to take the two pumps apart.

One is a 953 type with the older style spring. The spring is broken and needs to be replaced. I will do this using parts from another peump we have.

The other pump is a 1054 with the newer type spring. I have new o-rings and seals (thanks to Red Square member IndyWH-Marshall Fyfe who sells them).

I also bought some new reservoir seals from a Cub Cadet parts supplier (International Harvester Cub Cadets used the same Hein-Werner hydraulic pump unit on several models of their garden tractors).

Her are a couple of side by side photos of the 953 (left side) and 1054 type hydraulic pump with the reservoir cover off.

I already have begun to prime and paint the handles, hydrualic fluid reservoir covers and the hydrulic pump pulley.

I will post additonal photos in the future as the maintenance progress continues.

[420lse 18]

Looking forward to more! Good Job :banghead:

[COMMANDO1 23]

There would be no way in h3ll my wife would let me put painted parts on the washer and dryer.

[Indy w h 5]

Looking good Lane !! If ya need anything else you know who to call

Indy

[oldnugly 2]

Lane. Great info!! I'll be watching for updates as you proceed. I'd like to get my 953's system going.

Tom

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

The pump I did last winter was a 953 type also.

This Hein-Werner hydraulic pump had a very good old spring on it

[Kelly 1,033]

I'm in the prosses of doing the same thing, I'm stopping at a local hyd. shop tomorrow to see about parts, to reseal the pump and cyl. if they don't have them, I'll be getting with Indy, how are you getting the broken pieces of spring out?? I've tried everything, I'm to the point of having a little machine work done and use the better late style spring, the control valve will need minor work then a few holes for the roll pins, and as you said you can't see it from the outside.

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

Kelley: I will start pulling and pushing on the spring pieces next weekend and let you know if I find a way. One side is out (I think on the old broken 953 pump).

There is a roll pin that holds one side of the old style spring down (the pin actually rides on tip of one side of the spring) and those roll pins are always a pleasure to deal with -of course!! Pin goes right thru the top of the valve cylinder and looks to be a challenge!

The 1054 pump spring was broken too but of course the bolt in the threaded vlvle that holds that newer style spring is easy to remove. I saw that it had some brass from someone trying to braze it back together!

This picture shows the roll pin going thru the valve and covering the right side of the remains of the old style spring (on the left) .

:banghead:

[Kelly 1,033]

Here are two of the pumps I pulled apart, I have 4 apart right now three have the old style spring, the one with the new style spring is a pump from a Gilson tractor, I think like I said I'm going to try to convert to the new style spring.

[Indy w h 5]

Kelly make sure the pump off the gilson turns the same way

Or it won't work on a WH

Indy

Oh yeah Kelly if your trying to get the "legs" out of the pump casting

I use compressed air Just watchout for flying debris

Let me know if ya need parts

[Kelly 1,033]

Thanks Marshall, I'll try air, and a face mask, the pump is the correct rotation, but you have to fill it like a 953/1054 pump through a plug in the reservoir, but looking at my other pumps it will not be a big deal drilling a couple holes at right angles and threading the outer one to install a plug, I'll let you know if I can't get parts local.

[Save Old Iron 1,568]

excellent , thanks for the pics :thumbs:

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

Commando: My wife is in Boston until the end of the week and I will have that long gone from the washer and dryer by than!

:banghead:

[Kelly 1,033]

But we have pictures!!!!!!

[Operator 7]

Those pumps are really simple inside aren't they.

They are one direction driven right? Drove off the pulley side, if you were to swing it around and drive off the flywheel side they wouldn't work, right? My thinking here is I could mount one on the flywheel side on an 8 spd. tractor then still have hyd. lift. See my thinking.

Randy

[rickv1957 73]

Great info here guys!!!!

[fireman 1,022]

Somewhere out there on the internet is a document that shows and explains how to convert from the old spring to the new spring but I'll be damned if I can find it again. I swear I downloaded it but can't find it anywhere on my computer.

It showed what size to drill and tap the center of the valve slug so you can bolt the spring to it. Just by looking at the comparison photo it shouldn't be that hard to do. Just need the newer style springs.

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

Fireman: I think that's right. Drilling and tapping a center bolt to hold the new style spring should work. You would also have to drill some small holes for the roll pins to hold the new style spring in place.

One thing I am wondering is which style spring holds up better under longterm use! Lots of old style pumps still operating out there. Even the HY 2 and 3 versions with the longer valve on the HY2.

P.S. If I get a chance to take the newer style spring and valve off I might be able get a template for drilling the roll pin holes and bolt lenght/ hole size for the valve cylinder for others to use.

[TT-(Moderator) 1,156]

Perhaps someone could just reproduce the "hairpin" springs. :banghead:

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

I worked some yesterday on the two Wheel Horse Hein-Werner hydraulic pumps used on the 953/1054 tractors.

The newer spring type hydraulic pump has the new-o-ring installed and I added a gasket for the hydraulic fluid reservoir. The first photo from 2010 is another pump I rebuilt but shows the handle and two machine screw hols in the cylinder vavle from the exterior.

The handle in the second photo attached by two machine screws onto the hydraulic cylinder valve that extends outside the pump.

I had a vent plug problem with this pump. The 1/8 N.P.T. plumbers type plug has an allen head and this one was damaged pretty bad.

The new (old) vent plug is seen in the two photos below:

Pump with new sping, new o-ring, new hydraulic fluid reservoir gasket and vent plug is completed and work on old style spring pump begins.

The first photo shows the Spirolox exterior metal retainer ring that holds the valve cylinder in place. You can see three small ports in the pump on the right with the cylinder removed. The old O-ring removed from the valve cylinder is also show in the first photo.

This photo shows the old broken spring which the previous owner tried to mend by placing a nylok and bolt with two washers to bolt the two broken part together. I do't know if it worked that way but I stongly doubt it.

More of the 953 style pump photos:

Like TT says I need to get an old style spring to rebuild the 953 pump to its previous state.

:banghead:

[fireman 1,022]

The last old style spring I saw for sale was on Ebay and it sold for over $40. Someone did have these reproduced a few years back but I can't remember who or if they were a member here.

[Kelly 1,033]

Try Norms toys he had both style springs at the MI WH show, I think they where $25 each, I just today rebuilt my hyd, pump I planned on a thread later about it.

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

Thanks Kelly! Progress is ocurring!

:banghead:

[Lane Ranger 11,169]

Finished work on one of the 1054 Hein-Werner Hydraulic Pumps I have been rebuilding this winter.

Installed the new hydraulic lines and fittings I purchased at NAPA for less than $40 and installed the repainted pulley.

I have the lift tube also in the garage , painted and drying for final installation on one of our 1964 Wheel Horse 1054 tractors.

[stevasaurus 23,138]

Great thread Lane and pictures...thanks for sharing. does Norm's toys still have the old springs.?? :thumbs: