Adding Hydraulics

[KyBlue 655]

Okay So Ive been thinking over the different attachments, and things to do with our beloved WH's ... Ive got some fair fab skills, and a full shop - and plan to make some accy's for my WH ...

My Question is this, is it possible, to add hydraulics to a WH that wasnt factory equipped?? I dont want to make the Deck Hyd, lift or anything but it would be handy to have for some things Rollin around in my head. Where would be the best place to mount the pump?? Make it removable off the front mount maybe?? Maybe mount it off the tach-a-matic on the underside??

Brainstorm with me !!!!

[kpinnc 14,652]

4Star,

There are several people on this site who have added hydraulics to thier tractors. Some use hydraulic pumps for high pressure applications, like FELs. You can buy aftermarket hydraulics from many places that will work, and they can be belt-driven, or mount directly to the PTO side of your engine in shaft-drive configurations.

I have also personally seen power steering pumps from small cars used on a friend's tractor, with astounding results. you'd want one that has an attached reservior. The tractor I speak of has a very strong hydraulic system, and it was very inexpensive to fabricate. All you'd need to get is a spool valve and a double acting cylinder, and a couple of hoses.

These tractors are very easy to add components, or to completely modify. Check out the "Chassis Modifications" secton of this forum. Also look at some of Mith's or Nick's posts.

Good luck, and post plenty of pictures!

Kevin

[Nick 13]

The pump placement might depend on the tractor and what kind of attachments your looking into building. A mid mounted blade with hydraulic tilt and angle might need a front mounted pump. A front mounted scoop with lift and dump hydraulic cylinders might need a mid hitch mounted pump.

A question I dont think I have seen asked before, that I can remember anyway, is would adding a pulley to the flywheel side of the engine work. Using the left side of the engine would also allow it to be independent of the PTO clutch and the other attachments.

I also forgot to mention electric hydraulics. Some newer Toro lawn tractors had an electric hydraulic system for the lift. I can only assume there was no way to use the VS hydro for power. Ive never seen one removed from the tractor to see just how large they are.

[kpinnc 14,652]

would adding a pulley to the flywheel side of the engine work.

Nick, the power steering setup I mentioned above is set up exactly that way. Flywheel cup mounted pulley, direct to the pump, and it works great. You just have to be aware of which way the imput rotation of the pump is (clockwise, etc..), and mount it to match.

Good point on the electrics. Definately easier to run wires than hoses...

Kevin

[TT-(Moderator) 1,162]

Here's 3 words that might help alot of hydraulic system .

CONVERTIBLE TOP PUMP

I have owned several '83 - '84 Ford Mustang convertibles and they have a relatively small pump that runs on 12VDC. The cylinders are probably strong enough to lift attachments, but I don't know if the rod is heavy enough to withstand the force from something like downpressure on a grader or dozer blade.

A simple cure would be to use the lift lever shaft and OEM hydraulic cylinder for a Wheel Horse.

They aren't the fastest-acting system on Earth, but for someone who has a tough time pulling on a lift lever, they would certainly do the job.

A few wires, relays, and a SPDT or DPDT toggle switch (and maybe a hose adapter or three ) and you'd have "hydraulics".

Here's one on EBAY right now.

[Rollerman 290]

Thought I'd add a pic here of one of mine.

It uses a 12 volt HYD pump that works factory Wheel Horse parts...bellcrank,cylinder, & so on.

This is like a 12V convertible pump in many ways.

They are pretty common in the RV industry for trailer jacks, slide outs & the like.

You can just see it ahead of the side panel & behind the engine.

I can post more detailed pics later too.

[Jay Wellwood 28]

Found this thread using the search function.  Some good stuff here - anyone have any more details or additional info to share on adding hydraulics to an early horse?

[953 nut 60,133]

1 hour ago, Jay Wellwood said:

Found this thread using the search function.  Some good stuff here - anyone have any more details or additional info to share on adding hydraulics to an early horse?

Your talking about the 856 right?   If so the HY-3 unit would be ideal if you could find one. Hard to find and probably easy enough to duplicate using a pump and cylinder from another unit.

 

[lennygray 0]

On 12/24/2018 at 2:48 PM, Jay Wellwood said:

Found this thread using the search function.  Some good stuff here - anyone have any more details or additional info to share on adding hydraulics to an early horse?

I am trying to find info for a 1969 wheelhorse gt14. my hydraulic lift for attachments got real slow and quit working. I have found im getting no pressure to valve.

[lennygray 0]

Just now, lennygray said:

I am trying to find info for a 1969 wheelhorse gt14. my hydraulic lift for attachments got real slow and quit working. I have found im getting no pressure to valve.

 

[Goldnboy 1,035]

Here is my mock up before getting  tied up working on a refresh  of a GT1848. 

 

I just need  to install on my 8speed tractor. 

[pfrederi 18,696]

13 hours ago, lennygray said:

 

Does the GT-14 drive well.  Good power up hill downhill etc???  If it does may be an implement relief valve issue.