Confused99 2 #1 Posted May 2, 2008 Hello All, my name is Jason. I am 26 and live on the west side of Minneapolis. Today I picked up my first Wheel Horse. Growing up, a friend of my grandfathers had a couple and I have wanted one ever since. I picked up this Raider 12 only 15 min from my house. It came with the attachments pictured along with a set of chains. It runs like a dream and looks like it may have been rebuilt at some point in time. I paid $500 for everything shown. Let me know what you think. Did I pay alittle too much? Any comments or info you can give me on it? Thanks in advance, Jason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kj4kicks 154 #2 Posted May 2, 2008 Hi Jason, Looks like you did fine on your first purchase ! Congrats !! and welcome to your new addiction! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nylyon-(Admin) 7,882 #3 Posted May 2, 2008 Jason, Welcome to RedSquare I think you did great for $500, it looks like a nice clean Raider. Glad to have you hear, and thank you for sharing the pictures. Again :whistle: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rollerman 290 #4 Posted May 2, 2008 Jason you did good no matter what you paid. looks like it came with plenty of attachments to keep you busy for awhile. I'm digging the Wet Bikes too :WRS: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Confused99 2 #5 Posted May 2, 2008 Thanks for the replies. I am happy with the WH. My wife is doing ok with it so far. Thanks for the comment on the Wetbikes. They have become quite the addiction. Hopefully, the WH's don't become another Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Confused99 2 #6 Posted May 2, 2008 A couple questions, the fuel shutoff leaks, is that something I can still purchase new and where? Also, the deck says Toro WH so I am assuming it is quite a bit newer then the tractor?? One last one, I can't find any numbers on the engine, can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks again, Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMESS 24 #7 Posted May 2, 2008 You did great. Tractor looks real clean and you got a much newer deck with Atach-a-matic conversion to boot. Look on ebay and see what belly grader blades are going for and you will know for sure you got a great deal! Don't know about wet bikes, but I'm a sledder so that caught my eye. :whistle: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 15 #8 Posted May 2, 2008 Jason, I know where you can get your money back for the whole setup. I'd even drive from Ky. to come get it. The engine should have an I.D. tag mounted along the front edge of the cooling shroud, just behind where your exhaust pipe exits on the left front. It may have been removed for a repaint. The shutoffs are pretty easy to find and may even still be had from a Toro dealer. They are always listed on Ebay, if you want to pay that much for one. It's too late to hope this Horse won't become an addiction, first time you let out the clutch it was all over. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Confused99 2 #9 Posted May 2, 2008 The Wetbikes are a blast. Look them up. Lots of info out there. The sled though, is not mine. I work on sleds, motorcyles, ATV's, personal watercraft, etc on the side out of my garage and the Polaris need the front exchanger removed and welded. What do graders pull on ebay? I can't find any current or ended auctions for them? Thanks, I though the tag would be on the cooling shroud but it appears it was repainted so it is probably long gone. Is there any other way to tell what model it is. The reason I ask is because the motor seems really big for a 12hp. Now, I know it's been 10+ years since I have messed with small engines in lawn and garden equipment so maybe the 12 is just that big. I will have to hunt for a shut off. Thanks for the tip. I think the addiction is starting already too :whistle: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #10 Posted May 2, 2008 Let's just say that between the grader blade, the trailer, the dozer blade, and the rear wheel weights, you probably have the $500. K series Kohlers are quite large. 10, 12, & 14 horsepower engines are vitually identical on the outside, and a 16hp is basically different only by the addition of 1 extra head bolt (10 total) and a 1 1/4" exhaust port. (instead of 1") Great purchase, Jason & ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 14,652 #11 Posted May 2, 2008 You didn't get hurt with that one! Looks as good as some I've seen restored.... Out in the barn that is ! Congratulations! Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Confused99 2 #12 Posted May 2, 2008 Wow, I'm surprised they pull that much $$$. Like I said, even if I paid too much, I'm happy with it. This evening the neighbors were out and I talked my one neighbor into chaining up his newer "Crapsman" to the Raider right in the middle of the culdesac. He knew it probably wasn't going to do much but I was really surprised how effortless I pulled him around. I even let him pull me back alittle ways and let the clutch out and immediately started pulling him backwards. I had the throttle about half out. The motor didn't even seem to work much. I am sure the fact the WH weighed several hundred pounds more had something to do with it to. I am trying to convert him to a WH. I think after this weekend and we work on his backyard with the blade on the WH, he will be hooked. Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 15 #13 Posted May 2, 2008 Let him see you pulling a full sized pick-up, or better yet, a Sear's repairman van, down the culdesac and he will be hooked. They were once advertised by pulling semis loaded with all the attachments in parades. :whistle: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Confused99 2 #14 Posted May 2, 2008 Let him see you pulling a full sized pick-up, or better yet, a Sear's repairman van, down the culdesac and he will be hooked. They were once advertised by pulling semis loaded with all the attachments in parades. That would be a sight to see :whistle: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigian 1,234 #15 Posted May 2, 2008 :D Jason You picked a great Wheel Horse to start your addiction Nice story about your Raider pulling the "crapsman" These Wheel Horse's are strong little machines Search out my video on this forum of me dragging a pick-up and trailer around the garden with a 312-8. Ok its not a Raider, but you get the idea :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glenn27 71 #16 Posted May 2, 2008 Hello-Jason--(that's my son's name, also)...Welcome to a very knowledgeable place.. your tractor is nice, especially w/ all the attachments--as already posted... and yes--it is quite addicting--but also--quite satisfying!! Take care-- glenn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CasualObserver 3,411 #17 Posted May 2, 2008 Well... now the Jason's can finally start competing with the Terrys!! Jason, nice deal you got there. I agree with the others... only I'll say you stole that for $500. As TT said... your attachements alone are easily worth that. Wheel Horses are addictive, so get ready.... your wet bikes are gonna get jealous! I live down about 1 1/2 hours south of you, 20 miles east of Owatonna. Something to put on your calendar in the future is the LeSeuer Pioneer Power Show. There's a few of us WH guys who are going to have a display there. Check the thread on the North Central Wheel Horse Events Club (should be the last one on the main page) Show is Aug-22-24, and will be a great time. :WRS: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Confused99 2 #18 Posted May 2, 2008 Thanks again for the replies guys. Glad to see a fellow Minnesotian on here. I will check out that show. Sounds like it might be a good father son/daughter event. Thanks Jason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOC in Kentucky 178 #19 Posted May 3, 2008 :WRS: Your first Wheel Horse !!!! WOW Welcome to the addiction Better start putting some money aside for others and hiding stuff from the wife because its gonna get bad. No body can have just one for long!!!! You have been warned :whistle: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bambooheels 0 #20 Posted May 3, 2008 :whistle: jason, i think you did good. nice pics and if its something you always wanted then any price would have been good. you will become addicted as i have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linen beige 15 #21 Posted May 3, 2008 Hey guys don't y'all think Jason could already use a Charger 12 for a head to head between hydro and gears? Then he needs a D with the "real" snow plow, and a round hood or two for the tighter spots, and an RJ for nostalgia, and....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Confused99 2 #22 Posted May 3, 2008 hhhhoooolllldddd on a min there. I am still smoothing things out with my wife for the first one. Although, she is pretty numb anymore after about 20 Wetbikes On a side note, I have found a couple WH's in the area that would look good in the garage Jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
combatmp29r 27 #23 Posted May 3, 2008 Well... now the Jason's can finally start competing with the Terrys!! Great now there will be a suburb to Terrytown We need a new map again :whistle: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #24 Posted May 3, 2008 Terrytown is in Louisiana, Joel. Jasonville is in Indiana, so they aren't actually that close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
combatmp29r 27 #25 Posted May 3, 2008 At the intersection of 48 & 59 hey I've been through Jasonville Thanks again for the help TT I don't feel as lost on here now. :WRS: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites