HorseFixer 2,013 #1 Posted December 9, 2010 Tuesday morning I woke up early to 7" of snow and decided to Geter done. About half way through I was up by the porch and a awful noise started so MJ came out and said what is that and I smell something burnt I got out of my comfy cab to investigate and seen a shredded belt. So backed it in the garage and investigated Yikes The cheap pressed bottom pulley that attach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse'n Around 22 #2 Posted December 9, 2010 Wow I cant imagine what could have led up to that kind of a failure.I know less than nothing about snow blowers but I cant see what could have caused it. My first thought was that moisture could have got between the two pulley halves, and may have rusted and weakened the center of the pulley, but the photos show no evidence of it. Could something have very briefly stopped the rotating assembly suddenly causing the pulley to let go? It looks like you found a good replacement on there now,it looks like you wont be having any more episodes like this again. John Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MalMac 1,332 #3 Posted December 9, 2010 I had a similar pulley blew the hub right out of it like it had a froze bearing. Come to find out the bearing was fine. Pully just made of junk overseas steel. Hey Duke when your done blowing snow up there you can head down to my place. I am about 16 miles south of South Bend. MY 2 stage is still in the loft out in my barn. Just got the plow on for now. Tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,277 #4 Posted December 9, 2010 Bob...I would think that pulley can experience some great pressure at times...looks like the new one will be OK for ya. A little scary I'll bet. :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
300zx 7 #5 Posted December 9, 2010 I have never seen a pulley come apart like that, but after seeing it, I'm going to check my pulley for cracks before it ruins my new Kevlar belt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcrage 630 #6 Posted December 9, 2010 Duke Don't know how similiar the pulleys are but the left spindle pulley on my 37" SD deck look just like that this past September -- I purchased that deck at the same time I bought my tractor in 1991 (i.e. new Wheel Horse parts) -- So I replaced the pulleys on both spindles with original WH parts ($58 for the pair as I remember) -- Had the same symtoms that your snow thrower gave; noise and vibration -- I complained to anybody who would listen about the damn cheap construction that came apart after 19 years of use (with tongue in cheek) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whfan74 2,071 #7 Posted December 9, 2010 Glad nothing worse happened and most importantly no one was injured when it decided to let go. Looks as though you have it set up to last for quite some time now. And quit hoggin all of that snow up there! :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,799 #8 Posted December 10, 2010 I've seen that before. A lot of those pulleys are just 2 stampings made out of crap, crappily welded together. then they grind down the crap welds to make them look nice and weaken them further. that pulley you have now won't break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,033 #9 Posted December 10, 2010 How old is the blower??? lasted how long?? if they made it bullet proof we could not aford to buy them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Operator 7 #10 Posted December 10, 2010 Got to be that trampoline spring or was that on the lift side Cheap tin pulley spot welded, they just don't makke them to last do they? Randy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buckeye 5 #11 Posted December 10, 2010 I would keep an eye on that new pulley. Technically, the shaft should be exposed past the outside of the sheave to have a proper "grip" on the shaft. Although it appears to be a tapered sheave, they can still come loose if they dont have enough shaft to bite onto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,013 #12 Posted December 10, 2010 Got to be that trampoline spring or was that on the lift side Cheap tin pulley spot welded, they just don't makke them to last do they? Randy Rand now thats some funny stuff right there! Trampoline spring musta swung up and smacked that pulley real good! So the pulley got mad and busted a move on the belt! Damn I hate it when that happens! I need to take those other two pulleys and take to motion industries and see if I can get them also! Kelly being I bought it from you as I recall you said sumptin about a 5 year satisfaction gaurantee warranty Repair bills in the mail! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,033 #13 Posted December 10, 2010 I'll get a check right out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkopp 1 #14 Posted December 10, 2010 Wow, you must have some tough snow up there. :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SALTYWRIGHT 861 #15 Posted December 10, 2010 HI......STAMPED PULLEIES ARE ONLY GOOD FOR UP TO ABOUT 3 HORSE POWER. ABOVE THAT THEY WILL SPLIT IN TIME. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkchop 1 #16 Posted December 10, 2010 :D I think it might have been too much "HORSE POWER"!! :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,013 #17 Posted December 10, 2010 I think it might have been too much "HORSE POWER"!! No WAY RANDY! Cause I've been lookin for a 16 hp BIG BLOCK Transplant! :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PPGman 5 #18 Posted December 10, 2010 Makes me want to go out and check my pulleys. I would have to second the thought on these cheap stamped pulleys made over seas. Nothing like almost being done with your work only to find out you got a hand grenade sitting in front of your leg. We should tax all this junk comming out of China and Tiawan at least 40% before it leaves the docks and enters the retail market. If we did that, i'll bet we would have a countless selection of steel parts and pulleys made right here in the good ol' USA. Just my 2 cents worth....doesn't seem like a hard problem to solve. Glad you didn't get hurt, that replacement pully looks like it will serve you better! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Don1977 605 #19 Posted December 10, 2010 Stamped steel pulley are junk no matter where they are made. They will ware out and slip causing them to heat up and go more out of shape. I think that is what happened to HorseFixer's pulley. I was trying to help mow a sick friend yard a couple of years ago it was over gowned and the old pressed pulleys where slipping so bad it would not cut. I went back and had my old double d cast iron pulleys machined to fit the newer type spindles. You have the pulley fixed now the stamped steel idlers will go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clintonnut 126 #20 Posted December 11, 2010 I am using one of these on my pulling tractor! I heard of this before so I sandblasted the zinc off and ran a nice hot weld bead around the back side to keep the thing together while it is straining against the brute force of a moded single cylinder kohler! Charlie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suburban 550 28 #21 Posted December 11, 2010 Duke, good to see Kelly gave you a 5 year warranty with your purchase. I don't believe I ever seen a pulley come apart like that. Are you sure you weren't makin' some fine tuning adjustments using Sluggo before the problem occurred? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimD 3,347 #22 Posted December 11, 2010 Duke, good to see Kelly gave you a 5 year warranty with your purchase. I don't believe I ever seen a pulley come apart like that. Are you sure you weren't makin' some fine tuning adjustments using Sluggo before the problem occurred? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buckrancher 2,694 #23 Posted December 11, 2010 It looks to me Duke that the belt wore in the pulley groove far enough to make the metal on the sides of the pulley paper thin you added just enough torque to shred it like ripping a piece of paper in two there not much material thickness in those stamped sheet metal pulleys to withstand much wear the new one will out last the tractor Brian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 16,293 #24 Posted December 11, 2010 HI......STAMPED PULLEIES ARE ONLY GOOD FOR UP TO ABOUT 3 HORSE POWER. ABOVE THAT THEY WILL SPLIT IN TIME. Russ is correct about the stamped pulleys. All drive pulley should be cast or machined steel. The torque necessary to power a loaded snow blower will cause the hub of the stamped pulleys to twist and sheer. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerry w 2 #25 Posted December 11, 2010 Duke, another possibility, the hula girl has sabotaged it!! She wants to come home!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites