Retired Wrencher 5,797 #1 Posted December 2, 2010 :thumbs: I see some tractors with ags on the front I believe this helps in steering for plowing in the snow is there other Advantages to have these on your tractor other than winter????? and do they really help on slopes or slight down hill terrain can u let me know what u think on this. Gary B............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC9KAS 4,744 #2 Posted December 2, 2010 I put them on my B-100 because they looked "cool", and I couldn't afford the tri-ribs that I wanted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,154 #3 Posted December 2, 2010 Roller chain around the tires works great for plowing snow http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?...hl=roller+chain I used them last year and had no issues with marking the ashalt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rollerman 290 #4 Posted December 2, 2010 I use the roller chain like John mentioned. Works great combined with wheel weights to keep your front tires from walking sideways when plowing. I recentley bought a 520H with ags in front.....I'll be getting rid of them & putting turfs back on. The ags in front will be to aggresive turning on the lawn I think. They also have a weird feel when you turn & get on the edges of the ag bars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,154 #5 Posted December 2, 2010 They do look cool though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buckrancher 2,694 #6 Posted December 2, 2010 They do look cool though and gnarly too john :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sorekiwi 761 #7 Posted December 2, 2010 I've never used Ags on the front so cant comment on that. Arent you supposed to put them on backwards so the tractor will steer? I have used plain old turfs (no weights or chains) and tri-ribs (skinny ones). I like the tri-ribs best. I havent tried the roller-chain either, but it gets good reports and seems like it should work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 23,181 #8 Posted December 2, 2010 I've run ag's up front and didnt see any steering improvement in the snow. Mike............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasoncracer 0 #9 Posted December 2, 2010 i know this is not the classifieds but i would be intrested in buying them please let me know thank you jason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buckeye 5 #10 Posted December 2, 2010 i like them on my 312 for mowing. They really bite when you crank the wheel. havent noticed them tearing up the yard at all. As far as winter duties, I'll find out this year. Hope the front weights will make a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgoyette 12 #11 Posted December 2, 2010 I've run ag's in the front (mounted backward) and it was a noticeable improvement in the snow. Looks odd but grips a lot better than running them in the usual direction. No difference on ice though. I need to try the roller chain that John uses. Seems to be the way to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,033 #12 Posted December 2, 2010 I have a set on my plow tractor, they are mounted forward, and I don't think they help much in snow, I love them in dirt, but they do tear up the lawn when turning sharp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlenPettit 1,717 #13 Posted December 2, 2010 The problem in plowing in snow (or on frozen ground, ice) is the side slippage, the Ag Tires have less rubber on the ground and would tend to reduce this side slippage and improve steering (chains & rib tires would also), and, some extra weight on the front would give better control, a the working blade when down actually lightens the front a little. The tearing up of turf is a good example of how well it really works, by digging in when turning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,797 #14 Posted December 2, 2010 :thumbs: I Guess I am not thinking out of the box but I do have to ask John how does this ride on a slant John u been here you know it is on the hilly side. I just thinking how this would work on the hills I do a lot of driveways other than mine. so let me know how this works. Gary B.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,154 #15 Posted December 2, 2010 I started using the roller chains last year and now I will always use them. As the original poster of this idea said " It's like riding on rails". Hills, slopes, doesn't matter. You will notice a huge difference for a cheap price. This is one of the best improvements you can do for plowing snow. Get the cheap #40 roller chain and a couple of links for less than $20 https://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?catn...ns&keyword=PC40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,196 #16 Posted December 3, 2010 Humm, the roller chain idea sounds interesting. I'm wondering if running multiple chains per tire would make a difference? Two or three spaced evenly apart across the front tire tread would improve steering even more, or just overkill? Probably would look pretty cool though? Also, how about air pressure in the front ags? Lower pressures should help improve traction in the white stuff too, correct? Not sure if steering will be an issure issue when blowing snow, can anyone share some helpful tips when using a blower? :wh: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 18,154 #17 Posted December 3, 2010 I had originally thought about that too but the single works great so there's really no need to add any more. I don't think any more chains would make any difference. More weight always helps. For using the single stage blower, speed is the key. It's something you will get used to. The blower works best when it gets loaded up. With that machine, if the snow isn't fly'n 20 ft then you are going to slow. In the right conditions and speed it will fly 50 ft. In the wrong conditions ( 1" or less of light stuff) it won't work very well because it doesn't get loaded up. Steering can become an issue in icey conditions and using a the chains will help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 2 #18 Posted December 3, 2010 I have found I can dig the front in better with a blower by just pulling on the lift handle which adds weight to the front from the blower. I don't really need to get the blower off the ground even unless I'm really caught in a rut. Just transfering some of the load to the front tires does the trick usually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,465 #19 Posted December 3, 2010 I think the trick to using ag's in the front is weight , liquid along with the cast iron oem weights does wonders. Never had an issue tearing the grass while mowing and they work great in snow/ice. Only issue ever is buildup of mud, but it has to be pretty sloppy anyway.... Sarge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GlenPettit 1,717 #20 Posted December 3, 2010 Craig: What is that attached to the back of your Snowthrower/Cab Tractor hitch? I don't recognize what attachment it is for. Michigan Glen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,196 #21 Posted December 3, 2010 Weight box. http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22844 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites