Crow Horse 8 #1 Posted October 16, 2010 The cargo rack is complete and after a couple of shake down runs, Sarge was correct in saying that it might become sky happy up front. On the flat, no problem. However, when climbing fairly respectable hills the front did become "lite" and that was without towing the 4 wheel cart or the trailer.... That said, I'm looking for ideas as to different front weight setups to counterbalance the weight in the rear and regain positive steering control. My first thought was to use a mounting plate that would slide into the attach-a-matic and modify that to accept weights. This is only a starting point and I'll entertain any ideas. Pics would help greatly...... Note- the front tires are liquid filled... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stoneman 10 #2 Posted October 16, 2010 This brush guard was on the tractor when i got it. it's an especially cool feature here because of the plastic gas tank which is disguised as a grill. i've been looking at it and thinking it wouldn't take much to add some weights in case i need them. it's really stout and should look good in chrome with some red weights hanging on it. hope i find out by spring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,033 #4 Posted October 16, 2010 Front wheel weights?? then they are not weight on the front wheel bearings, it would be carried by the tires, I have a few sets if you want to go that route. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gd.pudge 2 #6 Posted October 16, 2010 i found some large speaker magnets that fit into the front wheel.sounds wierd but adds about 5 pounds per wheel and makes holding the front down with heavy load such as a tiller or the rear.plus they just snap in place,just watch your fingers g.d. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mavfreak 11 #7 Posted October 16, 2010 kelly is right the weight should be on the wheel, however I have had some trouble locating some hear and I really didn't have time to come up with a way to hold them to wheels before I lost my job. So the hanger on the mule drive was a quick down and dirty solution Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crow Horse 8 #8 Posted October 16, 2010 Can you explain the difference between front wheel weights vs. a weight(s) mounted on the tach-a matic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mavfreak 11 #9 Posted October 17, 2010 front wheel weights mount to the front wheels just like rear weights. This way the weight is held up by the tires instead of the weight sitting on the axles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crow Horse 8 #10 Posted October 17, 2010 If I'm understanding this correctly, then wheel weights put less stress on the wheel bearings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trouty56 567 #12 Posted October 17, 2010 Actually with the cargo unit on the rear he could put extra weight on the front and the weight would be carried on the rear axle. By checking the weight on the front axle before the cargo unit is installed you could then add however much weight it takes to bring the front to that number again. Might take 75 lbs might take more, maybe less. But the tractor would be balanced again with the rear axle carrying the extra baggage. Like balancing a seesaw. Juss10's idea is a good one because as more weight is added to the cargo area more could be added to the front to counterbalance the tractor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mavfreak 11 #13 Posted October 17, 2010 but still its weight carried though the bearings. I have no objections to adding weight needed in what ever way you can. but I and kelly were stating that it is better to carry the weight on the wheels if possible cause the weight would be carried by the wheels and tires rather than though the bearings. No matter how you balance the seesaw the weight is still at the fulcrum and on a 4 wheeled object that weight is on the bearing and axles. I Have put alot of weight on my C161 all in the wrong way and I understand that I may have to replace the wheel bearings on all 4 corners cause of it. so its up to you on how you add weight. I took the easy way out at the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trouty56 567 #14 Posted October 17, 2010 I understand what Kelly and you were referring to. I was just making an observation relating to balancing the load on the rear axle. My guess is that a midsized tractor carries 125 lbs (+ or -whatever) on the front axle just as it sits stock. Add a 100 lb tiller and the front drops to 50. Add 75 to the front to bring it back to 125 and the rear axle carries the extra 100. The front remains stock. Oops the rear axle carries the extra 175 (100 lb tiller and the 75 extra on the front). So if the weight was in the wheel there would be less weight on the rear axle. I stand corrected!! Look what Wallfish carries with weight....WOW!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhunsch 20 #15 Posted October 17, 2010 Hi I had an Extra mule drive so I used it for front weight hanger. I am not hanging much on it, and only for pulling. I really like it becuse I can mount and dis-mount in seconds. Also I remove one bolt and the mule drive is back to regular use. I have put as much as 100 lbs on it. Good luck I have pictures on photobucket find the links in pullers under jhunsch or b60 stock big tires Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelly 1,033 #16 Posted October 17, 2010 All I was saying IF you can it is best to put the weight where it will not load the front bearings, extra stress on the front spindles, axle piviot, kind of a draw as to less load on the steering, but I personaly feel on the rims, but that is me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites