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PetesPonies

I suppose these are still the 12" rears in this pic although they at least seem wider. But . .the question is . . are there bolt on 15" wheels that will work?

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TT

I'm not sure about tractor type 15" wheels, but since the bolt pattern (5 holes on a 4 1/2" circle) is the same as a lot of early Ford RWD cars (like V8 Mustangs, etc.) the wheels from a Bronco II or Ranger should work too. (older 15" size)

Backspacing (offset) might be an issue though. :thumbs:

The 854 in the picture you posted does have 12" wheels.

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PetesPonies

I happen to have lots of 15" Ford bolt pattern wheel s :thumbs:) Did some WH have the 15" wheels stock??

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TT

There weren't any 15" wheels with this bolt pattern used on Wheel Horse tractors.

(Most of them were 4 lug.)

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CasualObserver
1963 953 Gallery pictures This shows you a couple nice views of the 4 bolt 15 inch rims on tractors. The GT-14 has 15s as well as a few others.

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PetesPonies

OK, so by the time they made a 15" stock, they had switched to 4 bolt . .got it. Thanks

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rustyoldjunk

well no,not by the time they started using 15 inch wheels they went to four lug wheels.that statement is wrong.the four lug 15's on wheel horse and other brands date back to the 60's on the biggest heaviest garden tractors.while the rest used 12's.it was pretty much that way with all the brands that offered a 15 inch wheeled garden tractor.the regular garden tractors used the 5 lug 12's and the biggest used 4 lug 15's.my farmking style mtd uses the 4 lug 15's,bolens biggest at the time in the late 60's,the 1250 used the 15's although i cant remember for sure if they were 4 lug.of course wheel horse did use the 4 lug 15's on the biggest tractors.sitting here half asleep i cant remember the others right now.there are exceptions like my case.it it uses 6 lug 16's.hope this helps.jim

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Nick

The 12" D rims and the 15" rims on the D and C-195 used 6 lug bolt pattern like the Case Ingersols.

Nick

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charger10us

would the 15'-6 lug wheel, that was used on the Chevy pu be the same bolt pattern as on the C-195 or the D-200 ???? :thumbs::thumbs: :D

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charger10us

SORRY I ment 15" NOT 15' :imstupid: :thumbs: :thumbs:

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PetesPonies

the reason I said

OK, so by the time they made a 15" stock, they had switched to 4 bolt
was because I am talking about early 60s WH tractors. What early 60s tractor had a 15" wheel from Wheel Horse?

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TT

2 models - the 1963 953 & the 1964 1054. (there is also a 1054A from early '65)

There wasn't a 15" wheel used again until 1969 on the GT-14.

These tractors are all larger than the "standard" Wheel Horse garden tractors, and they all have the 4 lug 15" wheels with a "negative offset".

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PetesPonies

OK, kinda funny a 15" has a 4 lug and 12" has a 5 lug. Not sure where the logic is there, but perhaps in the transaxle that was used.

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TT

I would guess that they were built to match the suppliers product. A 12" 5 on a 4 1/2" bolt pattern wheel was used on two wheel walk-behind tractors way back into the 40's (I think :thumbs: )

Most of the 4 wheeled garden tractors of the 50's / early 60's used 5 X 12 inch rear wheels with some type of 6.00 X 12 tire. It worked out great because you could switch tire & wheel assemblies from tractor to tractor without worrying about the bolt pattern. (Like a Cub Cadet to a Wheel Horse or Allis Chalmers to a Sears, etc.)

12" L&G tires aren't nearly as expensive as a comparable 15" tire, so unless you already have the 15" tires, it wouldn't make much sense to switch. Overall gearing would be changed and a loss of pulling power would occur.

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PetesPonies

well a taller tire ( great circumference ) will raise the effective final ratio and lower the torque multiplication where the tire meets the ground . . it will however, increase the traction at the contact point and could very well increase the effective power. I clain ignorance with these tractors ( I'm learning ) but if we talk automotive and general engineering . . I'm ready and able :thumbs:)

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PetesPonies

and how wide are the stock wheels on an 854 ??

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PetesPonies

the wheels, not the tires. Those wheels are extra wide.

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baerpath

Same as above a lot of tractors used the 26's JD, cub etc.

Another way is to cut two rims and make a set of wide rims. Even check ebay for $200 you can get a nice shiney pair of aluminum ones. :thumbs:

Duane

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PetesPonies

how wide are the stock 854 wheels?

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Kelly

about 6"

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