C-175

[jpmcleod 4]

I am trying to drain the rearend fluid from my C-175 and can only find a small hex head plug at the bottom of the transaxel. Is this the only drain plug available?. I can't find any other drain plugs. Also, any suggestions regarding replacement fluid type and how much does it hold. I don't have a service manual for this tractor.

Thanks for any help.

[Shuboxlover 480]

Yes, that is the drain plug for your trans-axle, get the oil nice and hot, and then take the plug out.

Is it an automatic, or an 8 speed??? That will determine which fluid to use.

[jpmcleod 4]

It's a hydro.

[rickv1957 74]

10w30 motor oil for the hydro,Rick

[jpmcleod 4]

Thanks. Got to put everything on hold. I'm on vacation and going out of state. When I get back, I wll drain the hydro and put in the new fluid. Thanks Rick. You should know what it takes.

This was the freeby. I have never heard it run, and have never seen it move except to push it. When I get back, I have my fingers crossed that I see both. It sure is looking good though.

When I finish this one, I am going to learn how to post pic's.

[leichty 0]

Thanks for taking us along on vacation... Where are going ?

[Kelly 1,033]

Before you leave pull the drain plug should be empty when you get back home. ready for a refill

[C-Series14 15]

What is this thing they call...vacation???

[fireman 1,022]

Rick,

Are you sure about the 10w30 motor oil? How about transmission fluid? I know there was some discussion about this in some previous threads. I just drained the fluid out of my GT-14. The manual says type "A" ATF but that is no longer available. I did some research and the consensus is that a dextron II or III is a good replacement for the type "A". Now you have me curious as to which one I should use.

Anyone else have any input on this :omg:

[Shuboxlover 480]

The decal on my C-160 clearly says 10w30, don't know if they're the same trannys, but that's what mine says.

[tgranthamfd 29]

I bought a C-120 fender deck, for a back up, that came off of a hydro and the sticker on it said 10w 30. I have no hydro's, so I am by no meant the expert, but I can read a sticker. I do remember reading something about the discussion over oil or tranny fluid on here, too.

[HankB 16]

Rick,

Are you sure about the 10w30 motor oil? ...

Anyone else have any input on this

One chart I have lists the C175 with a choice of three transmissions, including the Sundstrand and Eaton units. If it's a Sundstrand, it gets ATF and the Eaton uses 10W30.

So it looks like it could be either and the owner will have to determine which he has.

[rmaynard 16,297]

When I finish this one, I am going to learn how to post pic's.

Posting pictures is a lot easier then working on transmissions. Just give me a shout when you get back and I will walk you through the picture thing.

Bob

rmaynard@qis.net

[jpmcleod 4]

Thanks Bob. I will take you up on your offer when I get back. I purchased a new camera some time ago and have not taken it out of the box. That's my goal when I get back. Learn to use it and post pics.

I am going to L.A. (Lower Alabama) if anybody wants to go.

I now have my own delimma as I don't know which rear end the C-175 has. I too am learning. I put trans fluid in my Bronco 14 and it works great. The rear ends look the same but I can't be sure. I will check with you guys before I put any fluid in it.

I plan on removing the plug and let it drain for 4 days while I am gone.

In regards to the vacation, I am retiring after 29 years with the State of Florida. I have to take annual leave (vacation) or loose the time. They will only pay up to 240 hours annual leave and I have over 360 hours. Time to start really working on the Wheel Horses.

[Coadster32 793]

I put Dextron III in my Charger12 w/o a problem.

[Fiddlestix 0]

According to Wheel Horse manual (P/N492-4206) on Sunstrand Hydro used from 1965-1982, Dexron II was used prior to 1973 and post 1972 all units used 10W30 or 10W40 motor oil. The Eaton units also apper to have only used the motor oil.

The Sunstrand Repair manual goes on to state you may convert to motor oil PROVIDED the trans,pump,valves, cylinders (in other words everything that had ATF fluid in it) is flushed. It makes no mention of changing seals to be compatible with either fluid. It appears then that you are permitted to go to motor oil but it is not mentioned whether a system is recommended to go from motor oil to DexronII.

This manual further makes no reference to Wheel Horse model so we must take it that this data applies to ALL Sundstrand equipped Wheel Horse tractors of the aforementioned years.

This manual is available FREE to download (or view) at the Toro site. I downloaded it via dial up so it can be done. I'm puzzled why more do not take advantage of this wonderful source of information.

[fireman 1,022]

I went to the Hydraulic shop the other day to get some fittingd and asked him about this issue. I explained to him that Wheel Horse changed to Piston-Piston pumps from hydro-gear pumps. He said that's the reason for the fluid change. You don't want to use ATF in a piston pump. So the moral to the story is make sure you know what pump is on your tractor before you put anything in it. Just because it supposed to have a certain pump in it doesn't mean it's the original. I just figured out that mine was changed to a post 78' model so I am running a good grade of "High Mileage" 10W30 in it. This version has extra stuff in it for the seal and helps to prevent leaks.

[jimbotelho 1]

Jeff is thre a way that the guys can determine the difference just by looking at it? I know you said something to about it but it would be better if you can explain it :omg:

[WheelHorse_of_course 99]

10w30 motor oil for the hydro,Rick

STOP hold on!!!

Look at what was in it. It will be 10W-30 OR it will be Dextron automatic transmission fluid (much less viscous and reddish in color.

Whichever it has you must use the same stuff.

[bo dawg 518]

According to Wheel Horse manual (P/N492-4206) on Sunstrand Hydro used from 1965-1982, Dexron II was used prior to 1973 and post 1972 all units used 10W30 or 10W40 motor oil. The Eaton units also apper to have only used the motor oil.

The Sunstrand Repair manual goes on to state you may convert to motor oil PROVIDED the trans,pump,valves, cylinders (in other words everything that had ATF fluid in it) is flushed. It makes no mention of changing seals to be compatible with either fluid. It appears then that you are permitted to go to motor oil but it is not mentioned whether a system is recommended to go from motor oil to DexronII.

This manual further makes no reference to Wheel Horse model so we must take it that this data applies to ALL Sundstrand equipped Wheel Horse tractors of the aforementioned years.

This manual is available FREE to download (or view) at the Toro site. I downloaded it via dial up so it can be done. I'm puzzled why more do not take advantage of this wonderful source of information.

Fiddlestix info is correct.

All the older models used the red fuild (chargers, broncos,ect...) The later 70's models was switched to 10w30.

You can look at whats draining out, if its red go red (Dextron), if it's not red go 10w30 of choice.

But with all the C-175 models all should be 10w30.

Like the info says you can take the older models from red to 10w30 but it has to be a complete clean change.

Hope this helps!

[WheelHorse_of_course 99]

According to Wheel Horse manual (P/N492-4206) on Sunstrand Hydro used from 1965-1982, Dexron II was used prior to 1973 and post 1972 all units used 10W30 or 10W40 motor oil. The Eaton units also apper to have only used the motor oil.

The Sunstrand Repair manual goes on to state you may convert to motor oil PROVIDED the trans,pump,valves, cylinders (in other words everything that had ATF fluid in it) is flushed. It makes no mention of changing seals to be compatible with either fluid. It appears then that you are permitted to go to motor oil but it is not mentioned whether a system is recommended to go from motor oil to DexronII.

This manual further makes no reference to Wheel Horse model so we must take it that this data applies to ALL Sundstrand equipped Wheel Horse tractors of the aforementioned years.

This manual is available FREE to download (or view) at the Toro site. I downloaded it via dial up so it can be done. I'm puzzled why more do not take advantage of this wonderful source of information.

Those with 10W-30 have to wait much longer for the fluid to warm up in the winter.

So, if it has ATF in it I would keep it that way, particularly since changing it would be a lot of work!