RJ/Suburban belt guard discussion

[rwilson 128]

http://s628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/gtd...orsale12094.jpg

I thought these were for an RJ?

[DMK855 15]

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[CasualObserver 3,411]

http://s628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/gtd...orsale12094.jpg

I thought these were for an RJ?

Nope, those are early 1960 Suburban drive belt guards.

[rwilson 128]

what are the other ones for?

[rwilson 128]

ok.. which one should be on the 60' 400?

[CasualObserver 3,411]

Either one of those, or one of the ones with the cross embossed in it.

[rwilson 128]

so it depends on what part of the year they were made?

[CasualObserver 3,411]

some people have hypothesized that the smooth guard corresponds with the hood without a hole or knockout plug for the ignition of the 550, but no documentation to support it exists that I've heard of. It is documented that many 400s were built before the first 550.

[tgranthamfd 29]

Either one of those, or one of the ones with the cross embossed in it.

This is for a 1960 Suburban 400, without the straight front axle, a later 1960 model.

[rwilson 128]

Straight front axle? Now i'm confused. Do you mean the ends where the spindles are? mine are kinda swept forward alittle.

[tgranthamfd 29]

Straight front axle? Now i'm confused. Do you mean the ends where the spindles are? mine are kinda swept forward alittle.

Early model 400's had a straight axle in between the spindles, and the later 400's had ones that looked kinda like this ]-\_/-[ Sorry best I could do on the computer. Most of the Suburbans had the same axle design, and a few were like on some of the RJ's. Bet if you look through the picture gallery you will see both for sure, though.

[tgranthamfd 29]

If you have a copy of the 400 owners manual, the animations on pages 2,3,and 4 show the straight front axle design. If you have a copy of THE BOOK, it explains the change and I think it has both photo's, too.

[Kelly 1,033]

so the early suburbans used the RJ axle? then they went to the cast iron axle?

[CasualObserver 3,411]

If you have a copy of the 400 owners manual, the animations on pages 2,3,and 4 show the straight front axle design. If you have a copy of THE BOOK, it explains the change and I think it has both photo's, too.

Someone get out the book (I don't have mine readily available), but that doesn't sound right to me. From what I recall, the cast iron axle change was in the Spanish RJ exports. That's actually one of the tractors on my "dream" list.... a Spanish RJ-58 with the front axle conversion. How the I'm going to find one on this side of the pond is beyond me, but it's still on the list.

And the animations you're referring to in the 400 manual are just the same drawings from the RJ manual. You'll notice that Wheel Horse used a LOT of the same pictures in manuals over the years. They didn't update every drawing with every little design change. The tractor pictures themselves all are cast iron v-shaped axles.

[tgranthamfd 29]

Okay the book shows a picture of the old and new design and states that" the new design was used on the 1960 and later models." The picture I saw was, in fact a RJ and then a Suburban with the new design. Guess I misunderstood what was said when we were IDing mine.