xring1 2 #1 Posted February 18, 2010 B) KT17QS 24350 Well I changed the oil (engine & transmission) on my 417-A and getting ready to mount the new cab. I had it running like a top and today it started breaking up and back firing. The back fireing is intermittent . I acts like it is losing fire but the points are sparking ok when it seems to cut out for a second or 2. I checked the points and they look ok and are adjusted. Once in awhile it will catch and run smooth for a few seconds so I don't think it is timing or valves. Spark plugs are ok.. I went thru the carb adjustment the other day and like I said...was running fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #2 Posted February 18, 2010 Just a thought - any chance you got some water in your fuel somewhere along the line? This time of year that can happen pretty easily. Duff B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger from southern Iowa 1 #3 Posted February 18, 2010 I'm right there with Duff on this one. Inline fuel filters may not have came from the factory, but required equipment in my barn. I prefer the clear paper type filter so I can keep track of fuel condition in my machines. Condensation is a BIG problem around here. Just my opinion. :party: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xring1 2 #4 Posted February 18, 2010 I'm right there with Duff on this one. Inline fuel filters may not have came from the factory, but required equipment in my barn. I prefer the clear paper type filter so I can keep track of fuel condition in my machines. Condensation is a BIG problem around here. Just my opinion. Ok will get a filter and I suppose I should drain the carb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger from southern Iowa 1 #5 Posted February 18, 2010 Yes sir, great idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwgdog66 23 #6 Posted February 19, 2010 If it is the battery ignition, check your condenser. I had the wire break on mine and it run fine for a little while then would backfire like crazy when any type of load was applied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Rancher 0 #7 Posted February 19, 2010 If you have a decent arc across the points your condenser is shot it should have minimal arc good luck B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xring1 2 #8 Posted February 19, 2010 Does anyone have the part number for the condenser? I called the local NAPA and he has the points but said he had no info on the condenser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwgdog66 23 #9 Posted February 20, 2010 Does anyone have the part number for the condenser? I called the local NAPA and he has the points but said he had no info on the condenser. This is the one for a KT 17 24323 . They should be the same. SKU: 52 147 01-S Condenser. I didn't find this one on the napa site either. But I did find this one. http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.as...513S_0006424222 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger from southern Iowa 1 #10 Posted February 20, 2010 Genuine Kohler condenser part # 230772-S from NAPA parts book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xring1 2 #11 Posted February 21, 2010 Genuine Kohler condenser part # 230772-S from NAPA parts book. Thanks First things first...Drain the gas out and blow out lines and add a fuel filter. I will get new points and condenser though. They probably have never been replaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xring1 2 #12 Posted February 22, 2010 Genuine Kohler condenser part # 230772-S from NAPA parts book. I called 2 NAPA stores and they said that the number was not good and that they only have the points set Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xring1 2 #13 Posted February 22, 2010 Does anyone have the part number for the condenser? I called the local NAPA and he has the points but said he had no info on the condenser. This is the one for a KT 17 24323 . They should be the same. SKU: 52 147 01-S Condenser. I didn't find this one on the napa site either. But I did find this one. http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.as...513S_0006424222 Did you enter the wrong link?? This one is to the NAPA search page Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger from southern Iowa 1 #14 Posted February 22, 2010 I just called my local NAPA store at check availability for the number I gave you in my earlier response. It is correct, current and available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwgdog66 23 #15 Posted February 23, 2010 Does anyone have the part number for the condenser? I called the local NAPA and he has the points but said he had no info on the condenser. This is the one for a KT 17 24323 . They should be the same. SKU: 52 147 01-S Condenser. I didn't find this one on the napa site either. But I did find this one. http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.as...513S_0006424222 Did you enter the wrong link?? This one is to the NAPA search page No. I clicked on it, and it pulled up the picture and description. it is PN# SME 5275513S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xring1 2 #16 Posted February 23, 2010 Does anyone have the part number for the condenser? I called the local NAPA and he has the points but said he had no info on the condenser. This is the one for a KT 17 24323 . They should be the same. SKU: 52 147 01-S Condenser. I didn't find this one on the napa site either. But I did find this one. http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.as...513S_0006424222 Did you enter the wrong link?? This one is to the NAPA search page No. I clicked on it, and it pulled up the picture and description. it is PN# SME 5275513S I should have the points and condenser Wen. A local lawn & Garden shop was able to order them for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger from southern Iowa 1 #17 Posted February 23, 2010 I figured out why your NAPA counter people are not finding that #. They are searching for it as a NAPA part #. If you can get them to look in their book/ computer in the KOHLER section they will find it. They do not list the condenser in their NAPA SME parts section of their book. Just forward of the NAPA section they have Genuine Kohler parts listed by Kohler #s. In my parts book it is on page 343...top right of the page, picture included. If you try this explanation with your local NAPA and get no results, PM me and I will get one and am willing to mail it to you. You have to be SO frustrated by now, I can't imagine. All this for a silly condenser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger from southern Iowa 1 #18 Posted February 23, 2010 Cool, problem solved. B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xring1 2 #19 Posted February 25, 2010 New points and condenser and it is running fine B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger from southern Iowa 1 #20 Posted February 25, 2010 Great news, thanks for the update. B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickv1957 75 #21 Posted February 26, 2010 See you got her running,thats great Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
