Doubletrouble 10 #1 Posted January 18, 2010 ok, I have a '71 work horse 800 3-speed. I was hearing a ticking noise from the engine. Awhile back i posted this finding and someone said to pull the head off and check for carbon in the head and cylinder. I did that today and there was some carbon built up so I cleaned up the head and piston top. I had everything nice and clean. I reassembled the engine and started her up and she still ticks. Could this be valve noise? I checked the tecumseh manual and I didn't see that the valves are adjustable. This engine is a hh-80 motor, I thought these were all cast iron. I noticed that the cyl. head is aluminum, is that correct? Any help on the ticking and insight on this aluminum cyl head will be appreciated....Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy w h 5 #2 Posted January 18, 2010 Doubletrouble, what you are hearing is the valves "ticking" which means you need some new valves. After so long of time the valves and lifters working together they wear on each other causing the valves to get sloppy.The HH80 is a cast iron block and most of the small engines have an aluminum head. Hope this helped you out. Indy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,696 #3 Posted January 18, 2010 Indy is most likely correct about the valves....They weren't adjustable in most Tecumsehs. But I wouldn't be in a rush to replace them. Worn valve stems keep the valve head in contact with the block longer and the valves are less likely to burn. Trade off is reduced power but if you can live with that you can probably wait a while before you replace the valves. When you do it would be a good idea to replace the lifters at the same time as they are probably worn also. While you were cleaning the carbon did you inspect the valve seats to see there were any burned spots ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doubletrouble 10 #4 Posted January 18, 2010 I did look at the valve seats the best I could. they didn't look to bad, had carbon deposits down in the throat of the runners but thats normal on any engine. I'm gonna run some fuel additive (in small amounts) to try to clean it up a little over time. And thanks Indy WH. I was thinking tha the old cast iron engines had a cast iron head to. thanks for the help guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy w h 5 #5 Posted January 19, 2010 Not a problem Doubletrouble, that's why this forum is here for everybody to help eachother out!!!!!And keep the horses alive for another 50 years Indy :banghead: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #6 Posted January 19, 2010 Why not just check the valve clearances to be sure. Excess valve clearance in engines with non-adjustable lifters can be corrected by cutting or grinding the valve seats and refacing the valves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doubletrouble 10 #7 Posted January 19, 2010 TT : I will check the clearance soon. I'll probably wait til it warms up a bit though and I hate the thought of having my horse down for any length of time. HUM, another reason to have more than one!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Rancher 0 #8 Posted January 26, 2010 if you grind or lap the valves and seats it will close up the gap between lifters and the valves to readjust valve lash you grind off the valve stem until your lash is right :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,162 #9 Posted January 26, 2010 Excess valve clearance in engines with non-adjustable lifters can be corrected by cutting or grinding the valve seats and refacing the valves. Yeah. :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites