FLtractor 246 #1 Posted 16 hours ago (edited) Evening, Another one came across marketplace. What model is it? Another Early suburban? Hmm seller saying all parts should be in box.. and it ran and drove before disassembly to paint and clean up.. but no engine in pictures and that box doesn’t look big enough to hold whatever engine it would have come with.. seller asking $200.00.. worth it? Edited 16 hours ago by FLtractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 71,512 #2 Posted 11 hours ago Something 1962 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 13,303 #3 Posted 10 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Pullstart said: Something 1962 Maybe some of the parts are, but to me it could be a 1964 704. The cambered front axle with 2 tierods and the adjustable Dial-a-Height lift lever mechanism say 1963 or later... The slanted hoodstand says 1964. So...704? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 48,312 #4 Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, ri702bill said: Maybe some of the parts are, but to me it could be a 1964 704. The cambered front axle with 2 tierods and the adjustable Dial-a-Height lift lever mechanism say 1963 or later... The slanted hoodstand says 1964. So...704? 704 did not use that style hood or gas tank. I think it may just be a pile of parts 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 13,303 #5 Posted 9 hours ago FrankenMutt?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 71,512 #7 Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, ri702bill said: Maybe some of the parts are, but to me it could be a 1964 704. The cambered front axle with 2 tierods and the adjustable Dial-a-Height lift lever mechanism say 1963 or later... The slanted hoodstand says 1964. So...704? yup brain fart 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 70,247 #8 Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, ri702bill said: The slanted hoodstand says 1964. So...704? 2 hours ago, squonk said: 704 did not use that style hood or gas tank. I think it may just be a pile of parts 40 minutes ago, 953 nut said: 854 1 hour ago, ri702bill said: FrankenMutt?? A pile of parts to something with three digits the last one being 4. The box shown in the listing has nothing but empty coffee containers. While not complete the part shown are in fairly good condition, BUT without knowing what isn't there I would consider it a bottomless money pit. If you keep throwing money into it you will succeed in building the world's most expensive . 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 246 #9 Posted 7 hours ago Update: seller said been years since ran and was taken apart. Said engine was worked on by local machine shop. Here is picture when they brought it home. 953nut you were right 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 13,303 #10 Posted 7 hours ago A very desirable model, better if all the parts are there.My 854 with the added 8 speed is one of my favorites - the model they never built, but should have..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 11,808 #11 Posted 6 hours ago $150 if you take a parts list and can confirm part by part that the very large majority of all the parts are there. Hood appears nice and straight and the 2 spoke steering wheel looks intact. That aluminum gas tank looks to have some significant pitting, probable from that Florida salty air. I try to find out what work was done on engine by machine shop and if they have any receipts or measurement documents. If engine actually had a full documented overhaul that could be a big $ plus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 70,247 #12 Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, FLtractor said: 953nut you were right I just knew it would happen sooner or later! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 246 #13 Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, ri702bill said: A very desirable model, better if all the parts are there.My 854 with the added 8 speed is one of my favorites - the model they never built, but should have..... Interesting idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 246 #14 Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, oliver2-44 said: $150 if you take a parts list and can confirm part by part that the very large majority of all the parts are there. Hood appears nice and straight and the 2 spoke steering wheel looks intact. That aluminum gas tank looks to have some significant pitting, probable from that Florida salty air. I try to find out what work was done on engine by machine shop and if they have any receipts or measurement documents. If engine actually had a full documented overhaul that could be a big $ plus. Did they ever make any Wheelhorse hoods in white from factory? Since they made black hood painted tops.. kinda like the primer white look. good point about tank coorsion.. will have to ask about engine info.. said she’d get back to me after church. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 246 #15 Posted 4 hours ago (edited) I wonder why they eliminated the under seat toolbox from the 854 to 856.. necessary for the lifting seat on 856 to access the transmission boot? Do tools tend to stay put in the toolbox there when driving and working the Wheelhorse? Edited 4 hours ago by FLtractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 13,303 #16 Posted 3 hours ago A 2 spoke steering wheel in good shape, not bent, is a rare find, also used on other models. An 854 hood is one model specific, one inch longer to clear the taller K181 air cleaner. That part alone, in good condition, is worth $$. The OE 854 gas tank is made using 2 pieces and expect it to leak.... The OE gasket is over 50 years old and is NOT ethanol gas compatible. Expect to disassemble & clean the tank. The modern aftermarket gasket IS compatable and a bit wider in the thin sections... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 11,808 #17 Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, FLtractor said: Did they ever make any Wheelhorse hoods in white from factory? Since they made black hood painted tops.. kinda like the primer white look. good point about tank coorsion.. will have to ask about engine info.. said she’d get back to me after church. No that hood look like someone sprayed primer on it. Red was original paint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 246 #18 Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, ri702bill said: A 2 spoke steering wheel in good shape, not bent, is a rare find, also used on other models. An 854 hood is one model specific, one inch longer to clear the taller K181 air cleaner. That part alone, in good condition, is worth $$. The OE 854 gas tank is made using 2 pieces and expect it to leak.... The OE gasket is over 50 years old and is NOT ethanol gas compatible. Expect to disassemble & clean the tank. The modern aftermarket gasket IS compatable and a bit wider in the thin sections... Good info to know and look for, thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 246 #19 Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said: No that hood look like someone sprayed primer on it. Red was original paint. Right know it’s primer.. just wasn’t sure If any models were factory white. seller messaged me about engine.. attached reply. I asked about documentation but didn’t mention.. also said all 4 tires new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 13,303 #20 Posted 1 hour ago Maybe good, maybe not... IF moisture got to the raw surfaces on the block, cam & crank - that may be trouble. If those parts were properly protected against rust, then maybe good to go. Maybe because you should not just slap it back together without verifying dimensional clearances first, per the Kohler Service Manual.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 11,808 #21 Posted 17 minutes ago Ask if the crank was ground or original?Are new piston and rod included? How close is it to you? If you’re up for a project and an engineer reassembly it’s sounding like it could be worth a look. You’re paying for 4 new tires and getting a pile of tractor parts free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites