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Good morning Horse Family! Road trip and storytime! I drove 8 hours round trip for this one. It was advertised as a Charger 12 Automatic but, that's not what is interested me. The seller, Mike, worked at a Wheel Horse dealer in Monee IL when he was 16 until he was 22. He seen a lot of tractors in his time and this one in particular had been traded in and motor overhauled. He went to the owner of the dealership and purchased it for his mother so she could mow the lawn and got the snowblower so she could clear the driveway.  Purchased in 1974. She used it up until 2 years ago when it became too difficult to get on and off anymore so it sat. It's not pretty but, it's all there. Yes, it runs, yes it mows. Had a carb fire a few years ago and is charred but relatively unharmed. It will take off forward if you are not sitting on it holding the motion lever. Parking brake, hydrostatic disengagement not working. It has the K241 that runs well for burning oil (don't think it was changed often). Now, did this have headlights? I see there's two silver nubs on the side of the hood and a taillight. Is this a 1076? I can read the tag under the steering wheel. It will be steam cleaned and see how good the paint really is. The snowthrower is not doing so well. It's sat outside under a tree for 20 or more years and was sunk in the dirt. Stuck like a hedge post. Not even the idler pulley moves. But, in all, it's was worth the story to me and Claudia made me promise to take care of her kid. Still attached to it and glad it went to a collector. Please let me know if this had lights at one point and if this is in fact a 1076! Myself, I like the original work clothes but, it could be a candidate for a repaint of it doesn't clean up. By the way, I was sent the picture of the Wheel Horse parade tractor that was assembled in the dealership in Monee. Anyone remember seeing this? Sweet set up. Three were gear and one hydrostatic. The hydro pulled everything 

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ri702bill

Nice! Only thing better would be the Horse leading A couple of Deere & Cubs!

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squonk

Yup 1076

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BPEisenhower

Great! How about an idea how to keep it from taking off on me? LoL 😂 I tried tightening the screws with springs that hold the plastic motion control and nothing. Flipping them over did nothing either. Holding the foot pedal down works but the parking brake -disconnect doesn't do anything, might be the belt is too tight.....

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Retired Wrencher

Sorry I am not an auto guy. There will be some one who knows more than me about this. Good luck with the tractor. It is savable. Also enjoy the project.

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Bar Nuthin
18 hours ago, BPEisenhower said:

Great! How about an idea how to keep it from taking off on me? LoL 😂 I tried tightening the screws with springs that hold the plastic motion control and nothing. Flipping them over did nothing either. Holding the foot pedal down works but the parking brake -disconnect doesn't do anything, might be the belt is too tight.....

 

The parking brake uses a pawl inside the transaxle. Many (most) of them get the teeth shaved off from being engaged while the tractor is rolling and become useless. The parking brake should also disengage the idler pulley, so the drive belt no longer engages the hydrostat.

 

The foot brake only moves the motion lever back to the neutral/stop position.

 

Adjusting the tension of the motion control is done here. Part 6-50 is adjusted to increase tension after loosening the retaining nut. Resistance is created by parts 6-45 & 6-43 and need to be clean, NOT lubricated. 

 

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BPEisenhower
2 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said:

Sorry I am not an auto guy. There will be some one who knows more than me about this. Good luck with the tractor. It is savable. Also enjoy the project.

I get a lot of grief from collecting these tractors and crazy for power washing, buffing and picky servicing. "It's just a lawn mower" this is why I like tractors, not the general public 🤪

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BPEisenhower
32 minutes ago, Bar Nuthin said:

 

The parking brake uses a pawl inside the transaxle. Many (most) of them get the teeth shaved off from being engaged while the tractor is rolling and become useless. The parking brake should also disengage the idler pulley, so the drive belt no longer engages the hydrostat.

 

The foot brake only moves the motion lever back to the neutral/stop position.

 

Adjusting the tension of the motion control is done here. Part 6-50 is adjusted to increase tension after loosening the retaining nut. Resistance is created by parts 6-45 & 6-43 and need to be clean, NOT lubricated. 

 

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Thank you so much for the diagram.  My machine doesn't have the detent for the lever on the pedestal. Have to see if there are bolt holes for one

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Bar Nuthin
23 minutes ago, BPEisenhower said:

My machine doesn't have the detent for the lever on the pedestal.

Not having that detent would be most inconvenient. Hope you can come up with one.

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hcminis
22 hours ago, BPEisenhower said:

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Very cool story.  

 

I can add to your stage coach picture with a video.   I actually own that stage coach hitch.  Got it from Mr. Ron Christianson near Chicago, IL  He sold Wheel Horse tractors many years ago.  I was able to get the team hitch as well as his remaining inventory. 

 

Here is the link to my video showing how the hitch was set up

 

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Unfortunately I was never able to get this completely set up and functional. Still have it though and maybe some day.  Be fun to take to the Wheel Horse Big Show in PA one year.

 

Thanks for sharing.

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pfrederi
2 hours ago, Bar Nuthin said:

Not having that detent would be most inconvenient. Hope you can come up with one.

 

 

My 3 Snow horses are all charger electros.  Just looked none of them have a detent plate.  Not really a big deal if you adjust the tension.  Mine are earlier ones maybe that was a product improvement in later models.

 

You need a 1-1/8 "  open end wrench to loosen the lock nut  then a 5/8" open end to turn the squared end of #6-50

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squonk

I don't think the 1076 has that tension adjustment. It has the same set up as the 875 and 1075.

 

Clean any lube off of the cam and stud. I replaced the crappy slotted screws with allen type screws and added a washer for a bit more tension.

 

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pfrederi
1 hour ago, squonk said:

I don't think the 1076 has that tension adjustment. It has the same set up as the 875 and 1075.

 

Clean any lube off of the cam and stud. I replaced the crappy slotted screws with allen type screws and added a washer for a bit more tension.

 

 

 

You are 100% correct

My bad I thought the original post was about a charter 12.

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peter lena

@BPEisenhower  snagged another convert , regular  track that I walk  at , met a guy a couple of weeks back , just talkin ,  maintenance cutting  grass , big  kibotas , asked him if he ever  oiled his paint down , stopped in his tracks , WHAT?  guess what ?  tried , penetrating  oil and kerosene , was amazed at how it easily  , soaked thru dull , chalky dull paint , sound familiar ?  asked him other  questions , going over to his house , for a look see, he loved all the lubricated , body seams on my car  , asked me what  i was doing , for plastic / vinyl trim , back to black , mothers , regular  maintenance , pete  

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953 nut
21 hours ago, hcminis said:

Be fun to take to the Wheel Horse Big Show in PA one year.

That is one of those iconic "wish I could se it in person" Wheel Horse historical gems.     :bow-blue:      Please bring it to the WHCC Big show.

Here is another photo of it.

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hcminis
55 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

That is one of those iconic "wish I could se it in person" Wheel Horse historical gems.     :bow-blue:      Please bring it to the WHCC Big show.

Here is another photo of it.

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I don’t want to hijack this thread any more than necessary.  I would be happy to bring the hitch to Big Show.  However I have not gotten a wagon made nor ever completely set it up with tractors.  I can create another thread to see if there is any interest in me bringing it out and maybe other using their machines to complete the team hitch 

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Bar Nuthin
23 hours ago, hcminis said:

 I actually own that stage coach hitch.

 

Amazing! This entire rig DEFINITELY needs to be resurrected!

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953 nut
15 minutes ago, hcminis said:


I don’t want to hijack this thread any more than necessary.  I would be happy to bring the hitch to Big Show.  However I have not gotten a wagon made nor ever completely set it up with tractors.  I can create another thread to see if there is any interest in me bringing it out and maybe other using their machines to complete the team hitch 

As far as going  :text-offtopic:, that isn't a problem, we do it all the time.          :confusion-shrug:

If you brought the hardware to the show I'm sure there would be people lined up wanting to be a part of the team hitch. someone would probably be honored to lend their four wheel wagon for the cause also.

It would be so cool to have a round hood, a square hood, a black hood and a 300/400/500 model all in one hitch. Perhaps a 953 could lead the parade, axle height would be a problem for having it being a part of the hitch.

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hcminis
6 minutes ago, 953 nut said:

As far as going  :text-offtopic:, that isn't a problem, we do it all the time.          :confusion-shrug:

If you brought the hardware to the show I'm sure there would be people lined up wanting to be a part of the team hitch. someone would probably be honored to lend their four wheel wagon for the cause also.

It would be so cool to have a round hood, a square hood, a black hood and a 300/400/500 model all in one hitch. Perhaps a 953 could lead the parade, axle height would be a problem for having it being a part of the hitch.

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LOL

 

Well let me get everything located.  I need a winter project so maybe building a stage coach is that project. 

 

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953 nut
1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

Perhaps a 953 could lead the parade,

On second thought a Pond walk behind, followed by a Lever Steer, a RJ-35 and a '58 RJ would be more appropriate.

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