Krice58 175 #1 Posted yesterday at 01:04 AM I’m sure this is on here somewhere just hoping for some tips. Trying to remove crankshaft pulley off a K341, took out the set screws and it won’t budge. What are we using to remove these? Jaw pullers? Gear pullers? PB Blaster and prayers? Also anyone have any suggestions for machine shops in the NE Ohio, W PA area, or would any old machine shop that does small block chevys and fords be able to do a k series? Like to have this block honed, maybe bored, valve seats maybe and the crank looked at. Thanks in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 20,372 #2 Posted yesterday at 01:24 AM Spray spray spray remove the set screw and spray into that hole. The pulleys are cast so they will break if you just start off with a puller and crank. This may seem counterintuitive but knock it in towards the block. The idea is to get it to move which breaks that rust bond. Then try a puller BUT you need to get it to move back and forth a little bit at a time before pulling it all the way off the shaft. Yes tedious, but knock in, pull out, knock in, pull out and repeat. It should move more distance on the shaft each time and get more oil in there each time. Try to spin it if you can as that will get more oil in there too. Clean the shaft off of any rust before beginning which will make it easier once it moves far enough out. That's my 5 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,712 #3 Posted yesterday at 01:24 AM Penetrating oil. Give it some time, it shouldn't take too much. I've "lightly" tapped them in with a section of pipe over the shaft but put a flat pry bar behind first to retain that space between the pulley and block. It can tolerate light shocks to break the brown weld if there is any. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krice58 175 #4 Posted yesterday at 03:57 AM Finally let loose. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 47,618 #5 Posted yesterday at 10:40 AM Can't believe no one mentioned a harmonic balancer puller! You're fortunate to get it off without damaging it. 4 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 80,005 #6 Posted yesterday at 11:24 AM 41 minutes ago, squonk said: harmonic balancer puller I've used a good quality steering wheel puller too. 10 hours ago, Krice58 said: PB Blaster Everyone has their favorites on penetrating oil but this product has been proven over and over to be inferior to pretty much everything else. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krice58 175 #7 Posted 22 hours ago 3 hours ago, squonk said: Can't believe no one mentioned a harmonic balancer puller! You're fortunate to get it off without damaging it. I have one of these that I use on the flywheels. Tried using it on this but I didn’t have long enough bolts on hand that fit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldlineman 1,767 #8 Posted 22 hours ago I like Kroil oil, a little pricy but you get what you pay for and don't over do it, what drops on the floor has no effect on what you are doing. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krice58 175 #9 Posted 22 hours ago 3 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I've used a good quality steering wheel puller too. Everyone has their favorites on penetrating oil but this product has been proven over and over to be inferior to pretty much everything else. I usually don’t use PB, just had a can laying around. What do you recommend? I’ve used Seafoam Deep Creep and some CRC stuff in the past that seemed to work well. I don’t have Kroil money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krice58 175 #10 Posted 22 hours ago Just now, oldlineman said: I like Kroil oil, a little pricy but you get what you pay for and don't over do it, what drops on the floor has no effect on what you are doing. I’ve only used Kroil a handful of times. Good stuff, just don’t do enough work to warrant the cost and I end of losing the can half the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 47,618 #11 Posted 22 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Krice58 said: I have one of these that I use on the flywheels. Tried using it on this but I didn’t have long enough bolts on hand that fit. Longer bolts are easier and cheaper to get than another pulley 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 3,568 #12 Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I've used a good quality steering wheel puller too. Everyone has their favorites on penetrating oil but this product has been proven over and over to be inferior to pretty much everything else. I would like to have the money Ive spent on inferior products because I couldn't find any Kroil local. I always have a can or two on hand now aerosol and liquid. I just order it off innerweb now when I start getting low. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 80,005 #13 Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, Krice58 said: I usually don’t use PB, just had a can laying around. What do you recommend? I’ve used Seafoam Deep Creep and some CRC stuff in the past that seemed to work well. I don’t have Kroil money. 1 hour ago, sqrlgtr said: I would like to have the money Ive spent on inferior products because I couldn't find any Kroil local. I always have a can or two on hand now aerosol and liquid. I just order it off innerweb now when I start getting low. I love Kroil but refuse to buy it because of the local availability and inflated price. I've tried many. The two that seem to work best for me are: good old fashioned original formula Liquid Wrench and the WD-40 Specialist Penetrating Oil. Note that is NOT the standard WD40 Traditional Formula which is NOT a penetrating oil. I've been meaning to try a 50/50 of ATF & acetone but keep forgetting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 17,129 #14 Posted 20 hours ago I am satisfied with Liquid Wrench and smile that it constantly seeps out of the little dispenser bottles I decant the big bottle into. Just doin’ its job, right!? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krice58 175 #15 Posted 19 hours ago 3 hours ago, squonk said: Longer bolts are easier and cheaper to get than another pulley 3 hours ago, squonk said: Longer bolts are easier and cheaper to get than another pulley Definitely gonna get some for next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krice58 175 #16 Posted 18 hours ago I just realized this pulley is smaller in diameter than my original. Both K341 71128 but mine is off an auto and the other engine is off an 8 speed. Looks like the part number I need is 7443 and I got the 7466. Anyone got a 7443 they’d be willing to part with? Looks like diameter of the one I need is 5 1/4. I guess the autos have the bigger pulley? The 8 speed one is like 4 inches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,778 #17 Posted 15 hours ago I'm a believer with the ATF & Acetone. Works great. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldlineman 1,767 #18 Posted 14 hours ago I agree, I have used this mix over some years and it seems to work, it will separate over time but just needs a good shake to get it back together. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 13,080 #19 Posted 4 hours ago I'm not really 'sold' on anything and experiment with various products. This stuff here seems to work quite well but it's kinda pricy. I'd rather apply it to just the area needed so I released the pressure and poured it in a squirt bottle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 68,009 #20 Posted 1 hour ago I probably have a half dozen "metrical cure" penetrants on the shelf that have been recommended as being THE BEST EVER on here and I always go back to Liquid Wrench, it works, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites