FLtractor 184 #1 Posted 18 hours ago I took the advice you all gave me on here as well as some of my next door neighbor and got the 856 running driving.. first time in over a year!! Thank you all very much for continued assistance encouragement and advice. 1. Neighbor told me take piece of wood and elevate the fuel tank.. disconnect the electric fuel pump (due to possible me connecting it wrong and reason no fuel reaching carb before)… and gravity feed the engine instead.. I did that and it worked!!! 2. Would like to keep it gravity fed…no hills here… simplier… thoughts? Need to find more permanent way to elevate fuel tank since the wood isn’t secured.. and it puts tank closer than I like to voltage regulator… I did zip tie some rubber bicycle tube to the front of tank to help insulate it from voltage regulator touching… insulated ignition wires as well near key with bicycle tube and zip tie. 3. The blue kayak strap was used due to not having a long enough bolt to secure the OEM tank strap since repositioning throttle cable and adding fuel pump bolt so that no longer allows orginal position or tightness of fuel tank strap. 4. I did get 2 more fuel hose clamps and a longer bolt for fuel tank strap since I drove tractor for 2 minutes then removed battery while I figure out wood elevate secure issue for Sunday. Any recommendations on fuel tank elevation suggestions and securing? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,291 #2 Posted 18 hours ago Niiiiice! Gravity feed is fine even without the tank being elevated. You just have to keep it FULL of fuel. You should be anyway because that prevents most condensation. Are you gonna remove the electric pump? Test it? Diagnose the actual issue? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 184 #3 Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Niiiiice! Gravity feed is fine even without the tank being elevated. You just have to keep it FULL of fuel. You should be anyway because that prevents most condensation. Are you gonna remove the electric pump? Test it? Diagnose the actual issue? I’ll test the pump out to figure out what’s wrong.. maybe disconnect it from the tractor … hook some fuel line to it.. ground it.. and hook positive to the same battery the tractor uses… to see if it’ll pump some fuel from a container.. might have to redo and move the tractor ignition to different dash hole anyway… but that’ll all probably be later.. I’m excited to get stuff moved with tractor before we get any hurricane storms.. lots to do and put away. Can I keep a piece of wood to elevate the tank under it? If I secure it and the tank somehow- is that even safe way to do it? Or maybe get a fabricated metal piece to elevate that fits better? Edited 18 hours ago by FLtractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,291 #4 Posted 18 hours ago 6 minutes ago, FLtractor said: Can I keep a piece of wood to elevate the tank under it? If I secure it and the tank somehow- is that even safe way to do it? Or maybe get a fabricated metal piece to elevate that fits better? I've never tried anything like that so I'm not sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 184 #5 Posted 18 hours ago Just now, ebinmaine said: I've never tried anything like that so I'm not sure. Oh ok. Did you ever run your 856 gravity fed just as the tank sits in the pan as it comes from factory- worked good gravity fed ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,291 #6 Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, FLtractor said: Oh ok. Did you ever run your 856 gravity fed just as the tank sits in the pan as it comes from factory- worked good gravity fed ?? I've had a 16 HP engine with a fuel pump that was VERY weak. To this day I'm not sure it worked at all. That was in a tractor that never saw tilted forest ground. It actually ran and drove just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 25,658 #7 Posted 18 hours ago 3 minutes ago, FLtractor said: Oh ok. Did you ever run your 856 gravity fed just as the tank sits in the pan as it comes from factory- worked good gravity fed ?? You might be ok since (I assume) your property is flat like most of Florida? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 184 #8 Posted 18 hours ago Just now, ebinmaine said: I've had a 16 HP engine with a fuel pump that was VERY weak. To this day I'm not sure it worked at all. That was in a tractor that never saw tilted forest ground. It actually ran and drove just fine. That’s great to know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 184 #9 Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, Sparky said: You might be ok since (I assume) your property is flat like most of Florida? Mostly flat.. barely any slope at all to yard. Nothing to even call a hill except 15 miles west. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 6,738 #10 Posted 8 hours ago Fl:: Get some heavy duty tie straps Harbor freight sells them like everybody else. I guess that’s really all you need but originally there was a steel clap that goes on that around the tank and underneath the console with one old-fashioned square nut that was the original set up. Glad you finally got it running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adsm08 4,654 #11 Posted 5 hours ago 12 hours ago, FLtractor said: Mostly flat.. barely any slope at all to yard. Nothing to even call a hill except 15 miles west. 15 miles is farther than you can drive that tractor on one tank of gas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 184 #12 Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said: Fl:: Get some heavy duty tie straps Harbor freight sells them like everybody else. I guess that’s really all you need but originally there was a steel clap that goes on that around the tank and underneath the console with one old-fashioned square nut that was the original set up. Glad you finally got it running. I have the original metal tank strap… I went and bought a longer bolt for it since it won’t close all the way since I installed fuel pump to bottom of fuel pan and moved throttle cable on top of the fuel pan. Not sure what to do about elevating tank and keeping wood secure since the metal tank strap won’t hold it. I could drill into each side of fuel pan and put two screws in to hold wood and then use the metal retaining strap to hold the tank if it will still hold it secure. Or maybe I should just get rid of wood altogether. And see if it will gravity feed carb on fuel pan alone. Thank you for the continued assistance. Edited 3 hours ago by FLtractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 184 #13 Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, adsm08 said: 15 miles is farther than you can drive that tractor on one tank of gas. I see why the confusion lol… I was saying it’s probably 15 miles till I would reach anything that closely resembles a hill so gravity fed carb would be a problem there but not where I live. How far could it drive on flat ground.. best guess how many miles? Thank you for the continued assistance. Edited 3 hours ago by FLtractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,291 #14 Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, FLtractor said: get rid of wood altogether. And see if it will gravity feed carb on fuel pan alone. ^^^^^^ this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 184 #15 Posted 49 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: ^^^^^^ this. I’ll see if it works. Hopefully so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
