AlexR 3,003 #1 Posted Sunday at 10:43 PM About the name, so the 73's are the no-name year for wheelhorse so I figured it needed a name. Well these are wheelhorses, so I thought what horse name or breed? Morgan horses are a reddish color and also used as multi purpose plow horses back in the day. Which is what this tractor is gonna be, a multi purpose plow horse 8 speed with hydraulics. This is going to be a continuation of my 73 wheelhorse for reference here is the original thread. It is not a C120 it is a 1973 14-8 and I am planning on returning it to a 14HP Kohler (12hp on it now is fairly worn) and add hydraulics this photo should give some idea of what is coming. This one will require some patience it's going to take some time. Also thanks to the Wisconsin boys @WHX?? @Achto for their help in making this possible. 3 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 8,958 #3 Posted yesterday at 12:02 AM Same name I've given my 14-8. Same reasons, too. I've heard that great minds think in the same gutter. 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,158 #4 Posted yesterday at 12:31 AM I'm in. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 3,003 #5 Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM 1 hour ago, 8ntruck said: Same name I've given my 14-8. Same reasons, too. I've heard that great minds think in the same gutter. Well I guess the 14-8's have a name now haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 18,460 #6 Posted yesterday at 03:25 AM I kinda wanna name my tractors, but I have four kids and I can barely keep up with thier names... 3 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,498 #7 Posted yesterday at 04:28 AM 5 hours ago, AlexR said: About the name, so the 73's are the no-name year for wheelhorse so I figured it needed a name. Well these are wheelhorses, so I thought what horse name or breed? Morgan horses are a reddish color and also used as multi purpose plow horses back in the day. Which is what this tractor is gonna be, a multi purpose plow horse 8 speed with hydraulics. This is going to be a continuation of my 73 wheelhorse for reference here is the original thread. It is not a C120 it is a 1973 14-8 and I am planning on returning it to a 14HP Kohler (12hp on it now is fairly worn) and add hydraulics this photo should give some idea of what is coming. This one will require some patience it's going to take some time. Also thanks to the Wisconsin boys @WHX?? @Achto for their help in making this possible. Defendant #1 (first wife) was, and has been all about horses and Morgans were her preferred breed. Beautiful animals. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 6,732 #8 Posted yesterday at 09:45 AM Alex that should serve you well. Take your time with it and get it rite the first time around. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 31,902 #9 Posted yesterday at 10:23 AM Following along, looking forward to seeing the build. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 70,105 #10 Posted yesterday at 12:24 PM Looking forward to seeing Morgan plow the field! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,158 #11 Posted yesterday at 01:58 PM 10 hours ago, kpinnc said: I kinda wanna name my tractors, but I have four kids and I can barely keep up with thier names... My Grammy, my mom, and Trina's mom... all do the same thing. Just reel off all the names from 2 or 3 generations back. Eventually you'll tag the one you're actually after. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 3,039 #12 Posted 20 hours ago Will be following along. Been kicking around the idea of adding hydraulics to a c120 or c160 for a while. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 3,003 #13 Posted 19 hours ago (edited) Been thinking and I have these parts I got off Pullstart, the brake pedal is the narrower one to give room for the cylinder while I do have a proper bellcrank/rockshaft for the hydraulic cylinder as you can see I have everything for hydro hydraulics as well. So I have been thinking I don't really want to rob a cylinder from a complete system not to mention there are some gouges at the top of the cylinder rod probably from a pipe wrench. So I think instead of finding another hydraulic bellcrank I will cut off the lift arm and weld a arm on for the hydraulics. So I still need a cylinder, wheelhorse cylinders aren't exactly dropping from the sky and a lot of them need rebuilt. And maybe this will be helpful to other people as well but I came across this one, retracted length is very similar the pin hole is correct at 3/4" the stroke appears to be the same at 5" which would make the extended length the same. So all that would be needed is to fab a bracket for the threaded end to attach to the bellcrank. Anyone see any issues with this? I figure no possible rod damage to deal with with used units plus it doesn't need a possible rebuild right away on top of buying a used cylinder. Edited 19 hours ago by AlexR 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 79,158 #14 Posted 19 hours ago 5 minutes ago, AlexR said: Anyone see any issues with this? Got pics of the cylinder? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 3,003 #15 Posted 19 hours ago 8 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Got pics of the cylinder? There is a small photo in what I posted but here is a larger one 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 3,003 #16 Posted 18 hours ago Also on the subject of the bellcrank the hydraulic one I have has been welded on in the past if anyone happens to have one out they could take a photo of to see if the angle is still correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 16,754 #17 Posted 5 hours ago My experience is limited, but I’ve not seen a WH cylinder with a throw longer than four inches. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackbah 1 #18 Posted 5 hours ago "Morgan" is an absolute perfect fit for a '73 Wheel Horse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 3,003 #19 Posted 4 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Handy Don said: My experience is limited, but I’ve not seen a WH cylinder with a throw longer than four inches. There are some much more knowledgeable people that will probably know for sure. But I believe from what I have seen the charger/bronco early c series cylinders are longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 56,849 #20 Posted 3 hours ago 15 hours ago, AlexR said: Also on the subject of the bellcrank the hydraulic one I have has been welded on in the past if anyone happens to have one out they could take a photo of to see if the angle is still correct. Was off a C-160. I think they were all welded on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR 3,003 #21 Posted 2 hours ago This one definitely looks like the angle is off. She's been rewelded for sure, I can grind it down and reweld just want to make sure I get the angle in relation to the rear lift bar right. May end up having to use the length of the closed cylinder to set that distance and get the lift arm where I want it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites