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[Easton Rich 1,230]

Back with the raffle tractor. It has a new solenoid and a proven working rebuilt starter, the solenoid hits hard, but nothing happens. Am I grounding out somewhere? Bad ground? I know its something simple, but I just can't figure it out. Thanks again for all your guys help

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 12,237]

If you have power to the solenoid from the cable going to the battery you should have power going to the starter on the other large post when the solenoid clicks.

Click on the picture. There is a diagnostic page there.

 

[squonk 46,574]

Get out a multimeter and start checking things. If you have 12 volts at the starter it should at least try to turn unless you have:

 

a bad stuck starter

 

A poor ground where the starter mounts.  Did you paint anything? 

 

Bad engine ground back to the battery

 

The little electrical cooties in the battery are stuck on the positive side and want to get to the negative side badly. They are prevented by the plates in the battery from doing so. So when you hit the key they go runnin thru the cables and windings lookin for that ground path to the neg side! 

 

READ THIS AND WATCH TOO! 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by squonk

[953 nut 66,118]

Why won’t my starter turn over from the key switch?\

Lets take a logical step by step inspection of your starter problem.

Is your PTO in the ON position, a wheel horse will not start with the PTO on.

Have you had the battery load tested at an auto parts store?

Have you cleaned and tightened all electrical connections including grounds?

Are all fuses good and fuse holders cleaned?

If these have all been done, we can check components of the starting system as follows; don’t skip a step or you may miss the problem.

Be sure the transmission is in neutral and the parking brake is set.

Take a pair of automotive jumper cables and connect the black cable to your battery  "-" and a good clean spot on the engine. Now connect the other cable to the large post on the starter and touch the other end to the battery "+" terminal, does the starter turn over? If the starter turns over the battery and starter are good. If it didn't turn over try the same steps with the battery in your car/truck, if that cures the problem then the "good" battery wasn't so good.

Presuming the starter turned over move the jumper wire from the starter post to the other end of the wire going to the starter which is one of the large posts on the solenoid. If the starter turns over when the battery is touched by the jumper as before then that cable is good, if not you have found your problem.

Presuming the starter turned over move that jumper to the other terminal of the solenoid, connect the other end to the battery and use a small piece of wire to temporarily connect the battery "+" terminal to the small terminal on the solenoid, this should cause the solenoid to close and the starter to turn over. If not, the solenoid is probably the problem.

If this was successful remove the large jumper cable and use the small jumper wire to the small terminal of the solenoid, the solenoid should close and the starter turn over. If not the cable to the battery is the problem.

Presuming all of these have been successful remove the black jumper wire and repeat the small jumper to small terminal, if the starter turns over the ground is good.

If all of these components test good then remove your ignition switch, be sure the transmission is in neutral, parking brake on, clutch depressed and PTO off. Use a small jumper to connect the terminals that were connected to the “B” and “S” terminals of the ignition switch. If the starter turns over then the PTO switch and other safety switches are operating properly and your ignition switch may be bad

[adsm08 4,477]

The best test I know for a bad starter ground, or any case-grounded piece, is to clamp a jumper cable to the case on one end, and the battery negative on the other.

 

If it starts working, you have a bad ground contact.