This was on another thread The Freebee

[WH854 45]

I have done some more work on the old girl

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=12509

I have some new pictures of my latest work on the tractor here they are!

The engine needs cleaned up and painted.

The first owner did a lot on jury rigging on this tractor. I hope I can get every thing back like it is supposed to be. I am a little shaky about tearing into the Hydro I don't even know if it works or not. Wish me luck fellows I have had good luck so far.

Chas :scratchead:

[Duff 206]

The first owner did a lot on jury rigging on this tractor. I hope I can get every thing back like it is supposed to be. I am a little shaky about tearing into the Hydro I don't even know if it works or not. Wish me luck fellows I have had good luck so far.

Chas, you're making good progress.

As for the mechanicals, I'd say tear into it! There are a ton of folks here more than willing to help guide you through the process. That's what this place is all about!

Duff :scratchead:

[WH854 45]

I learned a lot when I tore my C-105 apart but it is an 8 Speed this one is a Hydro I am leaning toward just getting the front frame and all cleaned up a good bit. The back moter mount block had a broken set screw they are 3/8X16-13/4 NLA.The Po must have had trouble with it because he had some kind of belting material packed under it to stop it from shaking. I think I will use grade 8 bolts to hold the mount on the frame, the isolation mounts were shot to,(good thing I got another shaker plate). The last guy that had it said he never had any thing apart on it,he said it was given to him. The old girl has lived a rough life. Time will tell!!!!

Chas :scratchead:

[oldandred 15]

Keep up the good work nothing like on the job training

[KB9LOR 4]

It is looking good Chas, I too have to tear into a Hydro, kinda looking forward to it, but it is a little intimadating, but it has to be done, I have a 877 for parts I may see if some of the Hydro parts will fit on the 69 Electro. But keep up the good work!

Brian

[Polaris2007 4]

I would use grade 5 bolts and not grade 8. Reasons are 1. Grade 8 bolts are hard to the point of being brittle. That is why automobiles almost excusively use grade 5 fasteners. You might find a grade 8 on a cylinder head bolt or a flywheel stud. sure the tensile strength is higher on a grade 8 than a grade 5, but just like an automobile, you want SOME flexibility. And grade 5 bolts have MORE than enough tensile strength for any place on your wheelhorse. And, if you ever do break a bolt off, and need to drill it for using an easy out, it's not going to happen if it's a grade 8. I'm using 316 stainless bolts everywhere except the transmission to frame bolts on my C-120. 316 stainless bolts have only a marginal advantage over grade 2 steel in terms of tensile strength, and do not come close to grade 5, but I'm not worried at all. Even grade 2 steel bolts are fine for everything except the tranny to frame bolts and maybe the engine mount bolts on your Wheel Horse.

[WH854 45]

Posted on Just 32 minutes ago

I would use grade 5 bolts and not grade 8. Reasons are 1. Grade 8 bolts are hard to the point of being brittle. That is why automobiles almost excusively use grade 5 fasteners. You might find a grade 8 on a cylinder head bolt or a flywheel stud. sure the tensile strength is higher on a grade 8 than a grade 5, but just like an automobile, you want SOME flexibility. And grade 5 bolts have MORE than enough tensile strength for any place on your wheelhorse. And, if you ever do break a bolt off, and need to drill it for using an easy out, it's not going to happen if it's a grade 8. I'm using 316 stainless bolts everywhere except the transmission to frame bolts on my C-120. 316 stainless bolts have only a marginal advantage over grade 2 steel in terms of tensile strength, and do not come close to grade 5, but I'm not worried at all. Even grade 2 steel bolts are fine for everything except the tranny to frame bolts and maybe the engine mount bolts on your Wheel Horse.

Thanks for the advice Polaris2007 I will do that, learn something every day

Thanks to everyone else for the attaboys

Chas. :ychain:

[WH854 45]

Update on C-165 Tractor Auto I finally got the gas tank off and seat frame,exsposed the transmission oil filter and pump. Here are some pictures!!

The gas tank was a little problem getting the old shut off valve out,but I got her out ok. Still have a lot of cleaning to do yet, boy was this tractor in bad shape I think it sat outside all it life.

Chas. :scratchead:

[WH854 45]

Got the rear wheel off, the tires are in pretty bad shape.suprisingly the hubs came off real easy the keyways are real tight.the axles seem to move in and out about 1/8 inch, is this something I should address or is this normal? Any case here are some more pictures.

The old seat without a cushion, maybe I can get it recovered.

Front view

Back View

I should have this tractor back together next spring.

I have to work on it outside, no more room in the barn.

Chas. :hide:

[Duff 206]

Chas, the in-out axle play is entirely normal, as long it's not matched by side-to-side slop (just kidding!). All three of mine have that amount of play, and I've read here that it's a common Unidrive characteristic.

That seat pan looks to be in good shape - I'll bet you can get it recovered somewhere!

Best,

Duff :scratchead:

[WH854 45]

Thanks Duff for the information! I think it may need axel seals the right hub must have been loose I could move it in and out with my hand, lot of oil on the axel and hub. The hitch pin was a little gaulded but, I whacked it with a brass hammer it moved, so I used a big punch drove it on through. Cleaned it up with sanding cloth,works fine now.

Chas. :hide:

[WH854 45]

Some more pictures of C-165 ( Pappa Horse) Old seat and seat springs, fender stand.

Chas. :hide:

[WH854 45]

Started Cleaning the engine today took the metal work off (guess what I found)

Cleaned it all off

Took fly wheel off

Cleaned it up some

Here is the tin work not to bad for sitting out side for so long.

Will have more pictures as I go along

Chas. :hide:

[WH854 45]

Another Update got some more work done the last couple of days, painted the tin work on the engine pictures of it later. Also took front axel and wheel off. The steering was all rusted up cleaned it up some I will have to work on that too.

Here are some pictures!

I will have some more pictures later on .

Chas. :hide:

[WH854 45]

Howdy guys did a little more work on the old girl, cleaned up the front wheel spindels tie rods,put some undercoat on them. I got a shut off valve installed in the gas tank had to use a little vaseline on the bushing it popped right in was a tight fit

Here are some more pictures.

I will be back when I get some more work done on her.

Chas :hide:

[WH854 45]

Bought a metal fender pan of ebay for it,cleaned it up and undercoated it. Nice shape !! Here is more pictures.

Cleaned the wheels and painted them too, also got new front tires.

I will take pictures of them later.

Chas. :scratchead:

[jusjeepn 59]

Chas, It's looking pretty good! Sounds like your having a good time on this one. Did that engine run? If it did it must have been mice powered. Keep up the posts!

[WH854 45]

Have a picture of the fender pan painted and the new front tires, think I can make them round again.

Chas. :hide:

[Duff 206]

.... and the new front tires, think I can make them round again.

Geez, Chas, I dunno about that....better be sure your air hose don't have any kinks in it 'cuz twisted air will only make the problem werse fer shur.....

Duff :hide:

[chamjack 0]

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[WH854 45]

Well It's been a while since I was on the site, I have been busy Taking care of leaves. I have some new pictures off the old girl.

I got the axel,Wheels,tirods and every thing all back on and discovered I forgot to put the motor mount bar on. So I had to take every thing back off, you can't put the bar on because the axel is in the way to get to the bolts. Us old fellers have to write every thing down.

Well I hope I don't have to make this a double project!!

Chas :WRS:

[WH854 45]

I am Sitting here looking at that last picture I am going to have to tear that part the seat and gas tank fasten to. Can't put gas tank on the screw on the left side,the oil filter for the transmission is in the way Oh well live and learn

Chas :WRS:

[WH854 45]

Well solved the gas tank problem! Took everything back of put gas tank on where it goes and then put everything back together. Added the fender pan, seat bracket, seat springs,Got the breaks to working, put a couple standoffs on shaker plate. Thats all I can think off right now,here is some more pictures.

The old girl is going to look a lot different by spring time

Chas :notworthy:

[whfan74 2,071]

It's coming along real nice! Doesn't even look like the same tractor anymore! Keep posting those pics! :notworthy:

[WH854 45]

Well I had to take the fender pan back of to install the tail lights, not to much room between the fender pan and gas tank. Here is a picture of the tail lights.

I put the belt guard on to check out how it would fit, running board too.

checked out the wireing harness found a couple of bare spots, repaired them.

Oh and the other side too.

That is about all this trip

Chas :notworthy: